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This gig was announced as a benefit-gig “in order to be able to finance the reparations needed for the vocal P.A.”. Lots of things, line-up wise, changed during the preparation…

At first another Portugese band, ‘Inkisiçao’ (see 94-09-17) was gonna tour with ‘No More’ but they couldn’t make it because of the singer’s job-duties… Their replacement ‘Corrosão Caótica’ – a hardcore/punk band from Lisbon with vocalist Paulo ‘Piranha’ Baptista, guitarist João(zinho) Morais, drummer Rui Lucena and bassist Miguel ‘Zé Gato’ (later also in ‘Subcaos’), and for a moment they also had a female guitarist called Susana – cancelled the tour aswell in the end. Hence the gig that was announced for July 31st was abandoned…

‘Subcaos’ from Lisbon were Diogo Tovar Carvalho (vocals; also did Recognize No Authority zine, and distributed mine), Xico (or Chico or FJ; vocals), João Abrantes (guitar; was ‘held up’), João Barrelas (guitar; also in ‘X-Acto’), Tópê (bass) & David (drums). They put out a demo (Genocidio, “chaotic crustcore”) in ’92 and tracks for the split-7” with ‘Hiatus’ (out on Slime recs) were recorded at the gig they played in Bruges the day before … (93-07-31) Slime recs (which existed since 1989) changed it’s name to Ataque Sonoro around 1994/95 (ataquesonoro.blogspot) and released their split-album with ‘Genital Deformities’ in ’94. They came back twice… (94-04-02 & 94-12-31).

‘Subcaos’ photos from Ludovic Hache’s zine Ras L’Bol #3 (top => bottom: Tópê – Diogo – ‘Xico’)

‘No More’ (see 92-05-24, 92-09-05 & 93-03-28) – Claude ‘Pattex’ Werer (guitar), Fränz Laureys (bass), Steve ‘Diff’ Differding (vocals) & Mike ‘Schof’ (drums) – who were supposed to play with ‘Corrosão Caótica’ the day before didn’t come over either (or did they?)… Another band that ‘Diff’ played guitar for, ‘Subway Arts’ (political hardcore/punk from Esch/Alzette), played. The others in the band: Claude ‘Bourano’ Bour (drums; (drums; Mike played on the split-LP but left also soon after), Fränz Laureys (bass), Sabrina D’Aurelio (vocals; David on the split-LP) and Xavier (guitar). It wasn’t their first visit either (92-12-20, 93-02-06, 93-07-04) and it wouldn’t be their last (94-04-02) … The Luxemburgers had released a split 12” (All Life is Equal) together with ‘No More’ in 1991 (on Markus Haas’ Per Koro recs). Around this time here they released a 12” titled “Una Definizione Perveresa Della Pace” (‘93) – a collaboration of Genet recs and PeaCy recs (ran by Diff and Simone Winandy).

‘Subway Arts’; photos by Eric ‘React’ Wawrzynkowski

‘Scraps’ were announced (in the newsletter) with a new line-up and new songs. At their previous passages (90-02-24, 90-09-15, 91-03-16, 91-09-01, 91-12-31) David (vocals) & his brother Raphael Dutriaux (guitar) still had Xavier (drums) in their ranks – besides Tomoy (bass) off course. I guess they might’ve recruted Pierre Anne (ex ‘6 Feet Over’) as drummer by then… He was on the LP Dismantle The Machine One Cog At A Time (recorded April ’94).

‘P.J.D.’ (Private Jesus Detector) was also mentioned in the newsletter but there’s nothing about hem in the V.V. notes for that day… They’d played the Vort’n Vis several times before: 90-08-25, 90-10-27 & 91-03-16.

Brob

We’d split up since a while because we rehearsed very rarely in 1992. We did that last show in Ternat [93-10-23] because it was a benefit. We did a few show in 1993 but ‘Pette’ didn’t feel like it much anymore… Gigging became sporadic but the fun of it was gone by the end of ‘92/beginning of ‘93. Also ‘Spatje’ didn’t feel like it anymore…

Koen ‘Siesele lammens, ‘P.J.D. bassist

Since we [‘No More’/’Subway Arts’] were kind of a collective with people switching from here to there and we all had a great relationship witch each other, we might have decided to just play as ‘Subway Arts’…

‘Diff’

I remember ‘Subcaos’: very cool people, the loved to play soccer. We went over to Portugal aswell… I guess ‘Diff’ organised all of that. Portugal, Spain,…

Sabrina D’Aurelio, ‘Subway Arts singer

I definitely think that the V.V. gig was the best of the ‘Subcaos’ tour as everyone talked over and over about it. I really would have liked to be there but it wasn’t possible…

Miguel Crespo (Ratazana Productions [a concert-collective, including with Guilherme Chalmers]), personal communication ‘94

I remember we shook hands in 1993 or the second time I was there in 1995. Lots of memories from those times, all the people and the mighty Vort’n Vis where I slept at least a couple of times… It was Bruno’s good intention to help ‘Turmoil’ with touring Europe and with a (split)LP; which never happened because of hard situations in Turkey. It was a nice dream anyway. I tried my best and with the help of Bruno I showed up alone instead of a tour and had a great time. There was a great gig with ‘Scraps’; ‘Subway Arts’ & ‘Subcaos’ were touring. There were lots of cool people at V.V. like the guy from ‘Neuthrone’, the unknown crusties of ‘War Cry’ and ‘Corpus Christi’, the people of Nabate recs and – I want to mention these names – Boezie, Stevie, Jimyh. I believe I have some photos from those days.

I’m still a noise-freak, still enjoy a lot of the same old stuff. I wouldn’t care sounding like ‘Youth Corps’ or ‘Terveet Kadet’…

Tay(lan) Ipek, ‘Turmoil’

I was on the road with ‘Subcaos’ and the Luxembourgers (I’m not sure if ‘Subway Arts’ played on all days or if they only played in Ieper. I think the other 2 days and probably the entire tour was with ‘No More’.); a tour that Bruno organised in the summer of 1993 (I also attended the 1994 ‘Subcaos’ gig): one gig in Manheim in the Cologne area, so not Mannheim in the south-west of Germany) and two in Belgium (Bruges and Ieper). Originally, I just wanted to attend the Ieper gig but Bruno asked if I was up for two more days. There were also a few other people accompanying ‘Subcaos’, which was nice: chatting, beer. :-). It was a really good experience being on tour (well, 3 or 4 days) with people from rather different backgrounds and countries (Portuguese, Luxembourg, Belgium, Germany). Markus of Per Koro recs also attended those gigs.

Carsten Pötter (Frankfurt)

I remember ‘Subway Arts’ very well… First time I heard a band from Luxembourg: ‘bonne pêche’, nice people, etc. Don’t remember much about ‘Subcaos’…

Willy ‘Hiatus’

One thing that I can recall from on of the gigs at the V.V. is that we were playing the smaller room and right in the middle of our set smoke started coming out of one of the amps, not sure if they caught fire or not but it would make a better story if it did… ;-)

Diogo (Tovar), ‘Subcaos’ singer

I couldn’t go on tour at that time because I had a ‘small problem” with the law and could not leave the country :-) I believe the band played in the V.V. bar.

João Abrantes, ‘Subcaos’ guitarist

I toured with ‘Scraps’ once, playing the guitar. As far as I can remember I just played Germany and Austria for five weeks. I replaced the guitarist, Raphael (David’s bro; he used to work with handicapped people and could not get holidays). I think it was ‘93. [Brob: I think that was ’95; and Amanda Trevens was touring with them in ‘94…]

Ma Raab

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

additions wellcome!…

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intro: 97-02-28&03-01 VV Doe-Wat dagen

‘Les Schtroumpfs Alcooliques (“the alcoholic smurfs”) had been at he V.V. already (96-02-24). Hailing from Merchtem (near Brussels): Gerd Van Hoof (bass), Mike Du Bois (drums & vocals), Raf Du Bois (guitar; R.I.P.). Somewhere in 1997 Tim Leten of Filth Ear distribution released Screams From Belgium, a 4-way split with ‘Les Schtroumpfs Alcooliques’, ‘Muggles’, ‘Hirudo’ & ‘Honey Honey’. ‘L.S.A.’ also recorded a self-titled mCD (at Midas studio 98-10-17). Later Gerd & Mike formed ‘Sunpower’.

‘Holefiller’ (also played 97-12-26) was a misanthropic bunch (from the Ghent squat-scene) playing slow, dark, doom-metal mixed with industrial parts. Sometimes they performed as a combo producing industrial noise, then they’ld call themselves ‘Hellfiller’. The core of the band was Karel Busschop (bass), David Stubbe (drums; ex ‘Neuthrone’) & ‘Leffe’ (guitar; ex ‘Chronic Disease’, ‘Private Jesus Detector’). Their mate Billy did the electronics for ‘Hellfiller’. Michael Maes recorded their demo in his attic-studio in December ‘97. Both David & Karel were in the sludge-bands ‘Thee Plague Of Gentlemen’ & ‘Möse’ later on.

‘Counter-Attack’ had played their first V.V. the year before (96-04-27) and they’ld be back (98-03-29). Originally the band was from Alken in Limburg but gradually ‘embedded’ in the anarchist/squat scene in Ghent). They played anarcho-peace-punk influenced by ‘Crass’, ‘Flux Of Pink Indians’ & ‘Dirt’. ‘Groovy’ Jochen (vocals; replaced the original female singer), Stef ‘Irritant’ Heeren (guitar/vocals), Wim ‘Simsallabim’ De Neve (bass), Jeroen (drums; later replaced by Yvan Meers who’s now in ‘Visons Of War’). Autum of 1998 they would record for their Laments And Skulls LP on Prejudice prods (JP Vandestien, Louvain-La-Neuve). The recordings for Masters And Jesters (LP out on Nabate) were done at Michaël ‘Link’ Maes’ studio in December 1999.

‘Subway Arts’ played the V.V. for the last time here after an impressive series (9212-20, 93-02-06, 93-07-04, 93-08-01, 94-04-02). Guitarist ‘Diff’ had already set up ‘Petrograd’ in October ’96 but there was an overlap with the existence of ‘Subway Arts’. Can’t remember if he played here. He’d also been here with ‘Bakunin’s Children’ about half a year before (96-07-07). Since April 1994 the others in the band were Thierry Thill (drums; replacing Claude ‘Bourano’ Bour; ex ‘Because’, also ‘Bakunin’s Children’), Fränz Laureys (bass; also in ‘D’Rotzbouwen’), Sabrina D’Aurelio (vocals; also in ‘D’Rotzbouwen’) and ‘Gull’ Alain Gouleven (guitar; ex ‘Because’, also in ‘D’Rotzbouwen’).

‘Cornucopia’ had played here on 96-02-24 for the first time and would retun a couple of times more (97-10-04 & 98-04-19). Bert Dexters (bass), Erik ‘Smerik’ Minnen (vocals), Jim Faes (who probably played the drums by then) & the (new?) guitarist Robin served the audience their frantic brand of grindcore.

‘Bullshit Propaganda’, from Hellevoetsluis (near Rotterdam, The Netherlands), were John van der Mee (bass/vocals), Niels van Beers (guitar/vocals) and Bowie de Weijer (drums/vocals). They played fast and heavy punk/crust with socio-political lyrics. They had done a demo called Belo-Fi. Later a 7” entitled Dirth World (‘97) and a split-LP with the Belgian ‘Karma’ on Tim Leten’s Filth Ear label (‘98) followed. There’s also a tape together with ‘Agathocles’) of their performance in Edegem, Belgium April 19th1997. After ‘B.P.’ split up (somewhere in ’98), Bowy teamed up with guitarist Joop ‘Jopie’ van Reede (related to ‘Die Nakse Bananen’) – who was also present here – to form the 2-piece (Mandy did ‘guest’-vocals) ‘Jesus Cröst’ (crust; they were supposed to play with ‘Doom’ but it didn’t happen…). John formed ‘Het Trio Broertje Dood’ (“furious mix of hardcore, grind and noise”) after the split. Niels became ‘Mr. Point’, guitarist/singer of ‘Low Point Drains’ (garage trashbluespunk).

‘Katastrophobia’ s first appearance at the V.V. (the second time was 98-02-13)… Some of the guys had to play twice: ‘Leffe’ (guitar; ex ‘Chronic Disease’, ‘P.J.D.’, etc.) was also in ‘Holefiller’, Stef ‘Irritant’ Heeren (drums) played also in ‘Counter-Attack’. The others were Gratiën Versypt (vocals; ex ‘4 Minute Warning’) and Nico Van Der Eeken (bass). In the summer of ’97 they would record (at Patrick Delabie’s 195 studio) their 7” (that came out on Nabate). Their next 7” (Homo Morticinus) was released by Morning Star and their LP (Age Of Aqvarius) by both labels.

Brob

Two-day fest. First day grindcore/crustcore. Second day straight-edge. First few bands on Saturday were cool. ‘Counter-Attack’ very neat. ‘Crass’-style with singer Stef. Totally my kind of thing. Then ‘Cornucopia’. ‘Smerik’ on vocals and just a bass-guitar then. We got to know Tim Leten of Filth Ear [record-label/distro] that night. He’ld become a good friend and he released some records on his label, ‘Bullshit Propaganda’ and ‘Jesus Cröst’. Also ‘Holefiller’ played. Sludge. It was quite likeable but it lasted too long for me. The venue was pretty much emptied when ‘B.P.’ played around 1.30. I sang 5 songs as guest-vocalist. We went sleeping – nackered and especially drunk – in one of the rooms upstairs with a bunch of Germans.

The next day fresh straight-edge boys. Also ‘Seein’Red’. We’d already seen them many times the last few weeks al and they made the same jokes between the songs, and we also reacted the same way. Brob was watching ‘Seein’Red’ through the window from outside… Because the distros were in the yard or he didn’t have the money to get in? I don’t know. We laughed about it.

It was a great weekend. Last time we were there.

Joop van Reede

A punk festival at the Vort’n Vis. One of our First ‘foreign’ gigs. A memroable evening, both in a positive and a way zin. In retrospect this had an influence on our attitude and view on the punk-scene, and perhaps this is also true for my later band ‘Jesus Cröst’. What left a positive impression were some of the bands that I saw for the first time that night. ‘Cornucopia’, with singer ‘Smerik’ rolling over the floor (on bare feet!), left quite an impression performance-wise. These guys became pen-pals; very nice people. Musically it was especially ‘Holefiller’ who impressed: slow, heavy music with fast eruptions. In my memory a kind of forerunner of powerviolence. It led ‘Jesus Cröst’ later to do a song called Fileholler – call it a  tribute. ‘My own band ‘B.P.’s kept being postponed; other bands kept getting priority: we finally got on stage around 3 p.m. Not very fair, being a band from The Netherlands, but we just started out and didn’t have much to demand. But because of that our show was for some 3 heavily drunk people and a dog. The audience had pretty much left or laid sloshed on the floor. I recall that most of my liking had already disappeared before we could start to play. A missed opportunity and big downer. Somewhat illustrative for the scene at that time indeed; I’ld experience it many more times later on. The lack of organisation, facilities, structure; the alcohol-abuse and the political correctness… (Our bassist got into a brawl because he ordered a beer – that was associated with being extreme-right…). ‘Bullshit Propaganda’s first and only album wasn’t entitled Don’t Support Your Local Scene [split with ‘Karma’] for nothing. And the first CD by ‘Jesus Cröst’ was – significant – entitled The Feeding Of The Party Punks. Our experiences in Ieper definitely played a role in that.

The next day there were a few Hardcore en Straight-Edge bands on the bill. Also ‘Seein’Red’ performed. Brob – who reminded us strongly of Jopie’s (guitarist van ‘Jesus Cröst’) dad – was eager to hear them play. Unfortunately he obliged himself to stay outside with his distro. We’ll never forget his face, peering through the tinu window during ‘Seein’Red’s show. Something that was discussed many a times afterwards… [Brob: By doing so I wanted to give expression to my conviction that distros should all be treated alike and that it was unfair that I had to pay entrance because I wasn’t part of the association anymore.] There was another great image on Sunday: the exodus of the punks vs. the entry of the ‘new’ audience. A bigger contrast is hardly imaginable. A stumbling procession of staggering, stinking crusties with an excess of dreads and patches, observed by a row of fresh, shaved urban hardcore dudes. Instinctively I was appreciating the second group actually more, while certainly at that time I belonged to the first. At the same time the image also represented the sectarianism of the scene. The narrow-mindedness, the uniformity and the peer-pressure. In fact nothing that you would associate with the ideals of punk (freedom, individuality), but it was there: clear and to a large extent. By the way: the ‘Seein’Red’ show was fantastic (sorry Brob!), and was marked by another funny occurrence. The guys’ talks between the songs were identical to tose we heard at a previous gig. And therefore also the shouted reactions (“Feyenoord!”).

By the way: I can’t remember if, and if so where, I slep that weekend. Probably that’s a good thing. It wouldn’t have been unworthy of man. Luckily the human mind works that way: so that on the long term only the positive things remain. For Ieper these were: the other bands, the meeting of acquaintances and the growing of new friendships. The mentioned negative things didn’t disturb me not very much back then, but would prove a cruel equation over the course of the years.

Bowie de Weijer

We had to play with ‘Holefiller’/’Helfiller’ and ‘Counter-Attack’ as for some reason or other, people tended to ask us in 3s. Some of the ‘Holefiller’/’Katastrophobia’ guys lived together at that time and Stef from ‘C.A.’ was our drummer so in a way it makes sense…I guess. Although we each had a pretty different style. We weren’t anarcho-punk and we definitely didn’t play sludge, although our sound intensified and got more heavy and more guitar-oriented over time. We had played a gig with ‘Bullshit Propaganda’ shortly before in a squat in Ghent (and I saw them for the first time in a squat in Venlo or Veldhoven, in Holland). I especially remember the gig in Ghent because the guys from ‘B.P.’ actually made quite a fuss about some packages of meat they found behind the counter (which actually turned out to be food for the dogs), which I found pretty disrespectful at the time. Not that a lot of people bothered to get their facts straight at the time…

We played pretty early on in the day because there was still light and it was in February so it must’ve been pretty early. There was quite the crowd and we played a long time (or so some people said, which isn’t quite the ‘compliment’ I expected… I mean, gigs who turn out “too long” aren’t mostly the most successful ones). We didn’t have too many songs, as we were just starting up the band but they were all pretty long for a punk-band (one song clocked at around 8 minutes, so yeah). But every crust-band wanted to be a bit like ‘Nausea’ or ‘Antisect’, plus I really like long songs and actually we initially constructed the songs around the lyrics, that’s why they mostly turned out pretty long. It became a bit of a trademark in the long run, I guess because our later songs were really long, the lyrics taking up pages and live we spun ‘em out with a lot of guitar-improvisation and noise which always was a lot of fun. We always tried to approach things a little differently and, of course, that didn’t always turn out as good as we planned. But at least we tried…

The gig felt quite comfortable, meaning I didn’t blow out my voice right away. The other bands I don’t remember clearly enough but I’m sure ‘Holefiller’/’Helfiller’ were nice, and ‘Counter-Attack’ as well. I wasn’t really into the other bands (and after their stunt at the squat in Ghent-, I tended to skip ‘Bullshit Propaganda’ a little..)…or in other bands in general. We lived in a place in Ghent where we organised gigs almost every other day and after a while I guess I had a bit of an overkill of bands repeating each other and sounding like everything else. Hope that doesn’t sound too condemning, it’s just how I felt at the time. And I always got attracted more by the art surrounding the music than the music itself, again something we tried to do with ‘Katastrophobia’, giving befriended artists the chance to get other people to know their work through us (as part of a live-gig or included in the artwork on our records,…). I still do… Don’t really recall if I stayed for the second day but I believe I did because we had our stalls from ABC and the Ghent squat-scene, and I helped out with that. All in all, there were quite a lot of people but I remember the videos and info-stands didn’t quite attract the crowd they should’ve had. I believe they were on the first floor somewhere? The videos disappointed me some, as this was the pre-DVD era: sound and image-quality weren’t always that good at the time, which had its charms of course… So, I guess that’s it, don’t remember all that much about them 2 days so I guess it must’ve been quite okay, considering…

Gratiën Versypt, vocalist of ‘Katastrophobia’

I’m not one to dwell on the past and I have to admit I hardly recall all our shows at the Vort’n Vis. I remember some moments but hardly a chronology. I think we were a 3-piece band at that particular moment. We had some technical problems due to our shitty equipment; a problem that followed us around during our short career. I don’t remember seeing much of the other bands and after all those years I don’t feel like commenting on their performance, although I remember most of them playing in squats, the Vort’n Vis and some other places during those days. ‘Cornucopia’ had a great name and a great singer; and every local hipster nowadays knows Stef from ‘Counter-Attack’ for a being a famous dark folkie. I remember the other bands by name but don’t ask for details. One is from Luxembourg, one from Belgium and there’s also a Dutch band, and they all played (fast) punk-rock: that is where my memory stops. I don’t recall the people in those bands but I have no bad memories of any of them. We played extremely slow, which was not the smartest move for a long standing career in punk-rock. We’ve met some very hostile audiences along the way but I don’t remember us caring much. Just wondering sometimes why we were such miscasts. I think we stayed in Ypres after the gig and probably got extremely drunk after the gig. A pattern that was often repeated and very common in the ‘scene’ both for audiences and bands. The extreme alcoholism in those days and in that particular crowd still strikes me to this day. I guess most of us got sober in the end and personally I pursued my career of evil in a whole different direction. Thanks for reminding me of my crusty pants days.

Karel Busschop, ‘Holefiller’ bassist

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 97-02-28 - (book C) Bullshit Propaganda

VV 97-02-28 - (book C) Cornucopia

VV 97-02-28 - (book C) Counter-Attack

VV 97-02-28 - (book C) Holefiller

VV 97-02-28 - (book C) Katastrophobia

VV 97-02-28 - (book C) Les Schtroumpfs Alcooliques

VV 97-02-28 - (book C) Subway Arts

additions wellcome!…

97-02-28&03-01 VV Doe-Wat dag

Organised by Wouter Biesemans (from Merchtem; he had put up gigs in his hometown already) who did an internschip at the Vort’n Vis during his studies social welfare.

Info by/on:

A.E.G. (anarchist economical community) was a collective of projects (connected to the Anarchist Centre in Ghent) such as the mobile kitchen Kokkerellen, the garden-group and the people’s kicthen, all working in a DIY/direct democratic manner. (Later also action-groups such as the Autonome Vluchtelingen Steungroep – autonomous refugee support-group.)

Actie Dierenbescherming – animal-protection action

Ghent squatters & Anarchist Black Cross (international network of autonomous groups supporting revolutionary prisoners)

De Nar (anarchist monthly publication)

Blokbuster (anti-racist/anti-fascist organisation)

H.L.B. (association for gay, lesbian & bisexual people) were invited but the Federatie Werkgroepen Homifilie (federation working-groups homosexuality) did a presentation

Tegenstroom (counter-current), distributors of socio-libertarian literature (later also info-, culture- & info-shop)

Zonne-Arc (non-profit organisation working around solar energy)

Esperanto

More on the bands playing on seperate days:

28 feb ’97: Subway Arts (Lux), Bullshit Propaganda (Nl), Counter-Attack (Bel), Katastrophobia (Bel), Holefiller (Bel), Les Schtroumpfs Alcooliques (Bel), Cornucopia (Bel)

[Beginning of 1996 Manu had left ‘Unhinged’ because singing made her throat worse and worse. She was replaced by Nat(halie) Linotte (vocals)… They were asked to play here but couldn’t make it.]

1 mar ’97: Seein’Red (Nl), Honey Honey (Bel), Outrage (Bel), Confrontation (Bel), Instinct (Bel), Resist The Pain (Bel)

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VV 97-03-01 - (book C) visiter Albano

VV 97-03-01 - (book C) visiter Dave

Supertouch logo

‘Supertouch’, a hardcore band from New York, was more or less considered “a legend” by some of the SxE kids here (although they stated “we’re not a SxE band”); probably because when they started (1985) Mike ‘Judge’ Ferraro (connected with ‘Youth Of Today’) played drums in the band… There was even a documentary made about them in the beginning of the 90s. In the band on this tour: Jon Biviano (guitar), Richard Edsell (drums; replacing Andy Guida), Mark Randall (bass; replacing Joe Graziano) & Mark Ryan (vocals). They released the 7” What Did We Learn on Combined Effort recs (NY hardcore label) in 1989 an LP entitled The Earth Is Flat, on Revelation recs in 1990 (“Heavy, brooding music with a lot of emotion.”). ‘Supertouch’ played with ‘Farside’ (also on Revelation recs) at the 1 in 12 in Bradford (92-12-19) but they didn’t tour together, they sort of linked up in the UK. ‘Supertouch’ crossed the Channel that night to end their tour on the continent… ‘Farside’ also played in Leeds on 92-12-29.

‘Subway Arts’ 1st gig here… Not their last: 93-02-06, 93-07-04, 93-08-01, 94-04-02, … The Luxemburgers released a split 12” (All Life is Equal) together with their mates of ‘No More’ in 1991. They were: Claude ‘Bourano’ Bour (drums; Mike played on the split-lp but left also soon after), Steve ‘Diff’ Differding (guitar), Fränz Laureys (bass), Sabrina D’Aurelio (vocals; David on the split-lp) and Xavier (guitar).

‘Spirit Of Youth’ had played plenty of times before this one: 91-06-08, 91-09-01, 91-12-21, 9208-09 & 92-09-05. Their line-up here was the one of the Abyss 7” (Crucial Response recs) – recorded at Cats studio in Brugge, October 1992 – with Jan (Maelfait) back on vocals (after a short stint by Ed ‘N.O.F.’), little Fred (Frederik Denolf) hitting the drums, Ignace De Meyer on bass and ‘Dompie’ (Dominiek Denolf) playing guitar. Their performance here was taped (see cover) and there’s also some video-footage on the H8000 DVD.

92-12-20 Spirit Of Youth (by Fré)‘Spirit Of Youth’, Jan crowdsurfing (supported by Peter Hoeren and others)

92-12-20 Spirit Of Youth live tape

Brob

I didn’t tour with ‘Supertouch’ (nor ‘Farside’)…

Jordan Cooper, Revelation recs

I wasn’t in the band in 1992. I’m on the 7” from ‘88 and The Earth Is Flat. We broke up in ‘91. I came back in July 2010. I don’t know who was in the band when I was not.

Andrew Guida, ‘Supertouch’ drummer

Our European tour of October-December 1992 was arranged by Steffen Rose at Navigator Booking. ‘Supertouch’ played in Ieper a day after playing a show in Bradford, England. We were really pressed for time so we did the Bradford gig, loaded up the van immediately after and started driving to Dover to catch a ferry. Our driver from Berlin (Tobias) was very good and got us to the ferry in great time. The boat took us from Dover to Calais, France and instantly got back on the road to Belgium. We reached the gig a little late but with enough time to set up and play a full set but unfortunately we missed the two bands before us. The staff were very nice. They fed us after the show and supplied us with drinks and a case of beer. Everyone we hung out with that night was very cool. It was a good after-gig party. I vaguely remember the room we played in but I do remember the stage was fully carpeted. I found that interesting. The club let us stay the night. We all slept on the carpeted stage, with our backline still set up. I also remember the beer the venue gave us (Duvel). So whenever I have a Duvel, I think of Ieper. It was our only show in Belgium on that tour in 1992.

Jon Biviano, ‘Supertouch’ guitarist

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 92-12-20 - (book A) SupertouchVV 92-12-20 - (book A) Supertouch'

additions wellcome!…

93-02-06 Subway Arts - Fleas & Lice - Xinix (-)

This was a benefit for ‘Het Krakend Gewricht’ (‘the squeaky joint’; ‘kraken’ is also Dutch for squatting), a squatted housing-complex & anarchist infoshop in Gent (Slinkemolenstraat). There were people’s kitchens taking place and there was a “creative space” night. The people living there collectively wanted to gather some funding for their bike-repair- and other workshops, a music-/theatre-/dance-room, meeting-corner, etc.

I remember Pascal Benoot and Gratiën Versypt both lived there. I got to know them when they were just teens and needed a ride home after Smurfpunx-concerts. Later Pascal would set up performances and organise people’s kitchens at the ‘3 Charels’, another Gent squat. Gratiën went on to sing for ‘Katastrophobia’…

There was performance & slide-show planned during this “booze-benefit” but I can’t recall any of that…

93-02-06 Krakend Gewricht (a)93-02-06 Krakend Gewricht (b)

‘Xinix’ was a hardcore-punk band from the Dendermonde area: Bart ‘José’ Van Malderen (vocals), Jan ‘Bosse’ Bosteels (guitar), Hans Verheyden (bass) and Philip De Landtsheer (drums). Bart was studying in Gent and became a friend; I took him to concerts and stuff. He also organised some shows (in their local youth-centre) for bands I booked. Also set up a short tour for them (somewhere in ’92, together with ‘P.J.D.’). Can’t recall them releasing anything… They did a gig for Smurfpunx though: 91-03-23

The steady line-up of ‘4 Minute Warning’ (Gent) became Fred ‘Fré’ De Vos (vocals), Leffe (guitar, ex ‘Chronic Disease’), Tom Van Hauwaert (drums) and Gratiën Versypt (bass). There were also some extra vocalists (Bart/Marleen) at a certain timepoint, if I remember well… Marleen dated singer Fré. She’s pictured in In and around the Vort’n Vis. According to Tom they were “very much into the ‘Antischism’ dual-vox vibe”…

‘Subway Arts’ were a hardcore/punk band from Luxembourg. In 1991 the band released a split 12” titled All Life is Equal together with their mates of ‘No More’ on Markus Haas’ Per Koro recs (actually he ran it together with Tanja Maier). Two years later they released a 12” titled “Una Definizione Perveresa Della Pace” (‘93) – a collaboration of Genet recs and PeaCy recs (ran by Diff and Simone Winandy). They were: Claude ‘Bourano’ Bour (drums; Mike played on the split-lp but left also soon after), Steve ‘Diff’ Differding (guitar), Fränz Laureys (bass), Sabrina D’Aurelio (vocals; David on the split-lp) and Xavier (guitar). They’d played here before (92-12-20) and would visit a few times more (93-07-04, 93-08-01, 94-04-02, …).

‘Fleas & Lice’ (Groningen, The Netherlands) played noisy crust-punk and consisted of former ‘Extreme Noise Error’ / ‘Mushroom Attack’ (91-07-07 & 91-09-21) members Piet/Pierre Erickson (guitar), Robbie Tempel (vocals) and Maynard Schut (drums). They teamed up with Joshua Lagerwerf (bass) so this must’ve been one of their very first gigs. In March they toured Germany, Switzerland, France, Italy, Belgium and the Netherlands (with ‘Disorder’ and ‘Husker Ikke’). In April 1993 Esther (vocals) joined. Right before summer they recorded for the Parasites 7” released on ‘Kleister’s label Skuld Releases in 1993). A bit later they recorded live (Brno, Czech Republic, 93-06-20) for a split-7” (entitled Polish Bastards; with ‘Hiatus’ released on Pawel’s Scream recs. They would come back twice (94-03-19 & 95-07-09).

Brob

93-02-06 Fleas & Lice (Ras l'Bol)93-02-06 Fleas & Lice (Ras l'Bol)'‘Fleas & Lice’ (photos from Ludovic Hache’s zine Ras l’Bol)

I have vague recollections of this benefit… According to my notes our 1st gig was at Democrazy (Gent) 93-12-03 with ‘Deflower’ but perhaps this one with here, in the V.V. pub, with ‘Fleas and Lice’ was… We’d nagged Bruno for ages to play and when we were finally asked our guitarist at that time, Djenko, didn’t show up. So no guitarist; Gratiën applied his heaviest effect on his bass and we played all 3 of our songs (maximum 4 haha) like this, I think… After Djenko had abandoned us, we contacted Leffe, together with this guy Curdt Deganck (who’d played in a punk-band from the area of Zelzate/Assenede) – the latter never joined us, he was just a mate of Djenko with whom he’d been in a band. Those first songs and rehearsals (and even recordings in a cellar) were with Djenko. So I guess this was our infamous trio-moment then, where Yannick became fan for life, I believe… So, at Democrazy (an event called ‘Oppureepatattenfuif’…hahah), Leffe played already with us: Djenko never did a show with the band… The “dual-vox ‘Antischism’ vibe” only applied to the collaboration with Marleen, a try-out – we were never a match to ‘Antischism’. When me and Fré started we just had old ‘Disorder’/’Chaos UK’ punk in mind. When Leffe & Gratiën joined things go a bit more ‘versatile’.

So yes, the one at the V.V. would’ve been the first, we only just existed for a few weeks/months… Our other shows: with ‘Hiatus’ & ‘Unhinged’ @ La Zone (Liège  93-12-11), with ‘Legal Suffering’ & ‘Oi Polloi’ @ Alhambra (Oldenburg 93-12-17) and in 94 here with ‘Varukers’…

Everyone knows ‘F&L’ of course, my mind is blank regarding ‘Subway Arts’ and ‘Xinix’ was with Bart from the Dendermonde area; he dropped by at the squat regularly and I wouldn’t be surprised he rehearsed with us at one timepoint. I’m 100% sure he has a video-recording of our show at the Democrazy…

Tom Van Hauwaert

Can’t remember much about this gig. I played with ‘4MW’ at the Vort’n Vis once. [94-02-05] It was our worst one and also our last one. We only did 3. Our line-up for this was: Fré (vocals), Marleen (vocals), Gratiën (bass), Leffe (guitar) and Tom (drums).

‘Het Krakend Gewricht’ was one of the first squats in Gent. A few members of ‘4 Minute Warning’ lived there at the time.

Leffe

The night before there was an info-night with slides and video about the Slinkemolenstraat. I believe my dad still has the video. I don’t remember anything of the concerts. I think I was on stage that night with someone of ‘Xinix’ together with Diego [Doodt Illegaal zine] en Ludo [Averechts zine]. Someone of ‘Xinix’ didn’t show up… We got on stage with a bunch of people who were unrelated to the band … ‘Fleas and Lice’ played aswell…

Pascal Benoot [one of the Slinkemolenstraat squatters at that time]

I can remember this concert. Though I can ‘t recall if ‘4 Minute Warning’ or ‘P.J.D.’ played. What I do know is that we left with Leffe & co from Gent in a van. ‘Fleas & Lice’ was very hot then; crusty punk-HC from Groningen and very sympathetic people. They even offered us to come over to play together in the Netherlands with ‘Disorder’. We were all very enthusiastic about that but it never happened…because our drummer’s parents wouldn’t let him…

Bart Van Malderen

‘P.J.D.’ didn’t play here… I was in Gent where I had a chat with ‘Deflower’ (a band from Turnhout with a member of ‘Moral Demolition’). Can’t recall much otherwise because of the boozing at that time.

Koen ‘Siesele’, ‘Private Jesus Detector’ bassist

I can ’t remember anything of that evening. Only that Fré and myself kicked one of the urinals to pieces… Jimmy Anti was watching us…

Gratiën Versypt

It was the very first concert of ‘Fleas & Lice’. We had contacted ‘Mushroom Attack’ to play the benefit but they had just split up. At that time that was a bummer for us hahaha but in the end we were very happy because it was a fucking good concert of ‘Fleas & Lice’. Outside some people of our squat did a performance with a lot of noise coming from scrap-metal (pieces of washing-machines and other old metal). There also was an electric guitar…

Paolo M.

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Disaffect HOTS cover

I think this gig at the Vort’n Vis was the best we’ve ever done. The atmosphere was just so brilliant – everybody having a good time, etc. I was just so please to be there that night and experience it. We made many new friends on the tour and it was so great to see our other friends such as your self, mate. Christ, it’s so depressing being back home again – I just want the rest of my life playing gigs in Europe!

‘Badgewearer’ díd eventually turn up at that gig but only after it had long finished and most people had gone home. It turns out that they had been driving all day to try and get to the Vort’n Vis in time but it was so far to travel that they couldn’t make it. It was a shame for them. They looked totally exhausted when they arrived.

Rumours are goin’ around that the Vort’n Vis is SxE? That’s strange. Sure, it’s obvious that a lot of straight-edgers go there but there’s also lots of other kinds of people and punks that go there too, from what I’ve seen. I definitely wouldn’t say that the venue was SxE dominated.

Andy ‘Orchy’ Irvine, bassplayer ‘Disaffect’; personal communication ‘93

‘Disaffect’ (a HC/punk band with political lyrics from Glasgow) had been here the year before (92-10-04)… I’d gotten to know Andy Irvine (bass; later ‘Scatha’, ‘Debris’, etc.) – in the early 90s through his Peace Terrorist distribution (he helped me bring my zine Tilt! to Glaswegian and other Scottish readers) and his DIY label Anonymous recs, so we were writing back and forth a lot. Through him I got to know his band-mates; a bunch of nice, warm-hearted people! They were: Lynne Entwistle (vocals), ‘Joe Fear’ (Jock Deacons; vocals; nowadays in ‘Constant Fear’), ‘IB’ Iain Blue (a.k.a. Debo Williamson; drums, later bass in ‘Scatha’) and Brian Curran (guitar; later ‘Quarantine’, ‘Debris’, etc.). Billy Steele (also in ‘Sedition’; I guess he was driving here…) played second guitar only the last time (94-05-22) they were here…

They had a demo out and the 7” An Injury To One Is An Injury To All on Flat Earth & Nabate in ‘92. 1993 was the year of Work As One, the split-7” with ‘Sedition (Nabate & Flat Earth recs) and the Home Of The Slave 7” (Anonymous recs).

The video that Karl Penando did, was most probably from this gig (not the one in ’94). Brian Curran wrote: “Wasn’t Billy [Steele] playing with us on the ‘94 tour? [He’s not in the video.] I think this video is from ‘93, the gig with ‘Subway Arts’ and a makeshift ‘Hiatus’ borrowing our gear and doing a few songs…” The vid captures the amical and warm-hearted atmosphere quit well. Lots of ‘silly dancing’ (‘Fast music doesn’t mean violent dancing!’, remember…) goin’ on, mates from Liège, Lux and France, etc.

‘Badgewearer’s music was complex jazz-punk with quirky guitars and groovy bass-lines. They were also from Glasgow, Scotland. They released their stuff on (‘Dawson’ guitarist) Jer Reid’s label Gruff Wit recs. The band consisted of Tony Kennedy (bass & bugle), Jim Carstairs (vocals), Ross Main (drums) and Neil Bateman (guitar & sax) – but the latter wasn’t on this tour…

‘Subway Arts’ had been here before (93-02-06) and would come back a few times (e.g. 94-04-02), sharing their melodic “anarcho/peace-punk”. Steve ‘Diff’ Differding (guitar), Sabrina D’Aurelio (vocals), Fränz Laureys (bass) and Claude ‘Bourano’ Bour (drums) left their names in the guestbook. I guess guitarist Xavier was also playing; he was on their LP Una Definizione Perveresa Della Pace (I guess that should’ve been ‘Perversa’) that got out that year…

The second bassplayer of ‘Turmoil’ (formerly ‘Moribund Youth’), Tolga Güldal, did an anarchist zine (called 30%; in Turkish) and he’d written about his band (who got a split-tape with ‘Inkisiçao’ released by Resistance productions – Pablo in Switzerland). They were from Istanbul. Besides him there was Taylan/T(a)y Ipek on bass/vocals, Kerim Cönençer on guitar/vocals and Orkun on drums. Bruno announced them in the V.V. newsletter at that time but for some reason ‘Turmoil’ never made it outside of Turkey… The band did some split-releases, e.g. a 7” with ‘Acoustic Grinder (on Boezie’s label Grinding Madness)…

Brob

I’m pretty sure Ross Main was no longer in ‘Badgewearer’ then …but I don’t know who drummed on that tour – they had a few different drummers! … Maybe Duncan Sillars… Mmm could’ve been Duncan on drums … They also had a drummer called Rich but I think that was later on… Neil would know!

Jer Reid

It was nice because we’d started friendship-links with lots of Scottish people and mates. As you know ‘Hiatus’ reformed for 3 gigs in 2009 and we did these with ‘Sedition’. Very good times! ‘Subway Arts’ were very good too; I still have both their records…

Willy ‘Hiatus’

I remember we shook hands in 1993 (or perhaps when I was there in 1995). Lots of memories from those times, all the people and the mighty Vort’n Vis where I slept at least a couple of times… It was Bruno’s good intention to help ‘Turmoil’ with touring Europe and with a (split)LP; which never happened because of hard situations in Turkey. It was a nice dream anyway. I tried my best and with the help of Bruno I showed up alone instead of a tour and had a great time. There was also a great gig with ‘Scraps’; ‘Subway Arts’ & ‘Subcaos’ were touring. [93-08-01]. There were lots of cool people at V.V. like the guy from ‘Neuthrone’, the unknown crusties of ‘War Cry’ and ‘Corpus Christi’, the people of Nabate recs and – I want to mention these names – Boezie, Stevie, Jimyh. I’m still a noise-freak, still enjoy a lot of the same old stuff. I wouldn’t care sounding like ‘Youth Corps’ or ‘Terveet Kadet’…

Tay Ipek, ‘Turmoil’

This was one was with our good friends ‘Hiatus’ and ‘Subway Arts’; we met Diff for the first time. ‘Hiatus’ weren’t on the bill but borrowed our gear and played all the same, and as usual were great.

Brian Curran

All 3 gigs we (‘Disaffect’) played at the Vort’n Vis were brillant. All the people we met, the bands we got to see and play with… Sleeping up in the attic after the gig and getting up next morning to croissants + jam and loads of fruit-juice after a night of boozing and smoking just hit the spot. It was amazing to see this kinds quiet town with this amazing venue and punk-scene, just blew me away. I think the first time we played there me and Andy were looking at gig listing and we had just missed ‘Nausea’ by a couple of weeks, gutted to say the least ;-).

I returned to the Vort’n Vis a couple of years ago with my old band ‘Constant Fear’ and no one told us that the place had moved, so I was arguing with the drummer (as usual) about where the bloody place was. Anyway after travelling for 2 days with 4 hours sleep, we didn’t go down that well, in fact we were shit. But I was disappointed to find that it was not the same place. Didn’t recognise anyone there and I don’t think we will be invited back.

Hard to imagine that the ‘Disaffect’ gigs were all 20 years ago; time just seems to have run away. I don’t remember a lot about the gigs we played as I was pissed but they amazing. So a big thanx to everyone involved with the venue, who put us on, fed and watered us, came to see a band and left as friends. Cheers!

Joe Fear

That was the day we drove from Vienna through Germany at 200km/h to try and get there…

Tony Kennedy, ‘Badgewearer’

 

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) Subway Arts

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) Disaffect

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) SlinkeMolenGentThe Slinke Molen squatters from Gent were there…

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) Olivier de ToulouseOlivier Hogie from Toulouse…

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) Laurent (Lorenzo) LiègeLaurent ‘Lorenzo’ from Liège…

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) Yannick de LilleYannick ‘PikPik’ from Lille…

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) W+AArnaud Waterblez from Pérenchies…

VV 93-07-04 - (book B) Pascal BortzmeyerPascal Bortzmeyer from Trelon: ” I remember the day when the drummer of ‘Crimpshrine’ & ‘Pinhead Gunpowder’ [Aaron ‘Cometbus’ Elliott], who was travelling around Europe, showed up and we took him to Fourmies [France]…” [Brob: Aaron (who’s zine I’d been distributing) was riding his bike through several European countries; he wrote about it in one of his issues.]

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94-04-02 Subcaos logo

Don’t find the flyer anymore… The newsletter of that time mentioned “7 bands, 7 nationalities” and also announced ‘Apathia’ from Poland and the Belgian ‘Systemphobia’… Can’t remember if these showed up (Mario & Kristof of the latter commented that they did play…).

The Scots of ‘Oi Polloi’ played at the V.V. so many times… Not sure what the line-up was here; I guess Calum MacKenzie (bass), Murray Briggs (drums) – they’re in the guestbook – Deek Allen (vocals) and Matt Finch (guitar) … & Colin Douglas (the driver). The band has had many different configurations: in my friend Michèle’s zine Persons Unknown it’s mentioned that on the tour with ‘Inkisiçao’ & ‘X-Acto’ (a few months after this, Sep ‘94) it was Deek & Matt, and Chris ‘Wheelie’ Willsher (drums) & ‘Clive’ (Calum Mackenzie, bass), and Al was the driver… An interview in Fifi #1 mentions Brian [Tipa] playing guitar…

‘Subcaos’ from Lisbon were Diogo (Tovar) Carvalho (vocals; also did Recognize No Authority zine, and distributed mine), Xico (or Chico or FJ; vocals), João Abrantes (guitar), João Barrelas (guitar; also in ‘X-Acto’), To-Pê (bass) & David (drums). They put out a demo (Genocidio, “chaotic crustcore”) in ’92 and tracks for the split-7” with Hiatus (on Slime recs) were just recorded (raging HC)… Slime recs (which existed since 1989) changed it’s name to Ataque Sonoro around 1994/95 (ataquesonoro.blogspot) and released their split-album with ‘Genital Deformities’ in ’94. Fast crusty HC! ‘Subcaos’ had been here before… (93-08-01)

‘Subway Arts’ were a political hardcore/punk band from Luxembourg. In 1991 the Band released a split-12” titled All Life is Equal together with their mates of ‘No More’ on Markus Haas’ Per Koro recs (actually he ran it together with Tanja Maier). Two years later they released a 12” titled “Una Definizione Perveresa Della Pace” (‘93) – a collaboration of Genet recs and PeaCy recs (ran by Diff and Simone Winandy). They were: Claude ‘Bourano’ Bour (drums; Mike played on the split-LP but left also soon after), Steve ‘Diff’ Differding (guitar), Fränz Laureys (bass), Sabrina D’Aurelio (vocals; David on the split-LP) and Xavier (guitar).

‘Quite Fresh Phobia’ from Eindhoven consisted of Skip Kort (drums), Sander (vocals), Antoine (bass) & Roland ‘Rolansky’ Molegraaf (guitar; ex ‘Incertitude’ & ‘Hund Als Waffe’). They had a track on the Bits Of Noise CD, a compilation of Ducth bands on WRF recs. Roland also booked bands (@ Burgers) and sometimes set up tours… They had been here before (93-03-14)…

‘Kulturalis Szemle’ (“Cultural Review”), a band from Orosháza, South-Eastern Hungary, were: Eörsi (guitar), Kicsi (drums/vocals) & Csiri (bass/vocals). They did two mini-tours in France & Belgium with the French band ‘Constant Summer’ (Don’t think they played this one…). The band had a total of six demos (downloadable via their website kulturalisszemle.mindenkilapja.hu) out. They played punk-rock, “mixed with alternative and indie influences”. Most songs had Hungarian lyrics.

Brob

We were touring with our friends form ‘Subway Arts’ when we arrive at beautiful Ieper. I can remember the church near the V.V. and specially the V.V. bar. In Portugal back in the 90s we used to play for 300/400 people, numbers that are rarely seen nowadays over here. At this gig I remember that Bruno (who organised our Euro tours) talked about +/-1000 people at the festival. Our show was huge. [The bands played in big ‘barn’, not the pub.]

We were touring with an old drummer that learned the songs while driving from Portugal to central Europe and so we couldn’t play many new songs that we had. David was replaced by Hugo Begucho (he was our first drummer and recorded the Genocidio demos back in 1992. He also played for the great Portuguese HC band called ‘Alcoore’.) on this tour. We also did an (self-titled) EP in 1994 on Rage recs with the new songs that we couldn´t play live because our drummer left us one day after we left Portugal to the Euro tour… I still remember that the Belgians really liked us.

I recall that the guitarist of ‘Hiatus’ was chewing my guitar-strings and falling over the drum-kit. The crowd was insane and really liked our heavy sound. Unfortunately our crew didn’t record our show (drunk bastards) but I filmed the entire ‘Oi Polloi’ show. I still have it on 8mm and VHS and I will try to convert it digital. I can only remember the ‘Subway Arts’ gig and ‘Oi Polloi’…the rest of the time I think I spent it drinking beers outside. ;-)

After this crazy show I remember talking and drinking with Wills and the rest of ‘Hiatus’; it was a great great day. The next day we played in Orléans (France) and some French and Belgian guys came with us for that show. Super.

João Pedro of Slime recs also came on tour with us. So were Miguel Crespo and his brother Samuel [Brob: Isn’t this supposed to be his friend Samuel Melro?]. You were asking/searching for Miguel Crespo & Guilherme. João ‘Jonhie Simbiose’ was a close friend of Miguel…

Also some others of us still play and you can check for these bands: vocalist Francisco [FJ] Dias is in ‘Dawnrider’ and sometimes ‘Subcaos’, guitarist João Barrelas played in ‘Danwrider’ and I played for ‘Rolls-Rockers’ and nowadays [2013] for ‘15Freaks’. I still play live (I was 18 at the time) but it was perhaps my best gig ever. Nowadays I’m more into punk rock’n’roll like ‘Supersuckers’, ‘Gluecifer’, ‘Turbonegro’; I really don’t like the new punk-bands but there are some good like ‘Mr. Myagi’ (Check out about the punk-scene on billy-news.blogspot.com). So the ex ‘Subacaos’ members are all active except David, Diogo Tovar (living in Amsterdam) and To-Pê (haven’t heard again from him)…

João (Pedro) Abrantes, guitarist of ‘Subcaos’

Miguel Crespo is not dead, he is very much alive and has been living in Amsterdam for 15 years…

João ‘Jonhie Simbiose’

I was indeed one of the singers from ‘Subcaos’… My memories from those days are not very good, maybe a side-effect from the countless cartons of cheap red wine that we brought with us from Portugal. But I definitely remember that we had a great time and you guys really made us feel at home.

I’m now [2013] living in London but met Miguel frequently when I was in A’dam. I believe Guilherme’s living in Brasil now. He was our driver when we played the V.V. for the 2nd time. I remember now that there were five of us inside his tiny Renault 5 and we took no instruments with us at all, our only baggage was just this shit-load of cheap red wine. Not very professional I guess… ;-)

Diogo (Tovar)

Our band quit in 1998 but we are still good friends, and meet frequently and talk about the ‘good old times’ then. There’s a special place in our memory about touring with the band and the gigs we played. We got to the V.V. with the help of Manu of ‘Constant Summer’ who organised some other gigs for us in France and Belgium. We were really satisfied about the technical equipment and the stuff at the V.V. The audience was great too, we met a lot of communicative, open-minded people there. We had a nice time.

‘Kulturalis Szemle’

Second gig of ‘Quite Fresh Phobia’ here. Different singer this time: Sander. Maarten had left the band the year before. It was packed, so lucky we played in the hall in the back instead of the tiny pub. Just before we had to play I heard two punks talking that it would be a good time to get food ‘cause the next band (us) was a non-grinding one. True, ‘Q.F.P.’ made punk-rock with some hardcore influences. Anyway there where still a lot of people in front of the stage and they really made this gig one to remember. Very cozy, lot’s of fun & partying with them. The drums where put on the side of the stage so I had good contact with the band as with the public, nice. When ‘Oi Polloi’ started it got really frenzy. The two P.A. speaker-towers where moving (did’nt tip over) and punks hanging in the roof-beams. Great atmosphere that day, had lots of good talks and fun with more than 7 nationalities…

After ‘Quite Fresh Phobia’ split up I went on playing in different bands (‘Bek Hauwe Speule!’, ‘Toad’, ‘Hagridden”). Today still going strong with ‘Kort Door De Bocht’…

Skip Kort, ‘Q.F.P.’ drummer

Now I remember which ‘Oi Polloi’ gig I saw at the barn. It was this one with ‘Subcaos’ in 1994. (I had been on tour with ‘Subcaos’ in the summer of 93 aswell.)

Carsten Pötter, Frankfurt

94-04-02 Subcaos (by Michael M)‘Subcaos’ * João B./ Diogo / To-Pê / Xico / João A. (photo by Michael Maes)

94-04-02 Subcaos (by Wim DL)94-04-02 Subcaos' (by Wim DL)‘Subcaos’ (pictured by Wim DL)

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) Subway Arts

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) Subcaos

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) Quite Fresh Fobia

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) portugeseSamuel ‘Ratanza’ / Claudio ‘Simbiose’ / João Pedro (Slime recs)

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) Oi Polloi

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) Oi Polloi'

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) Oi Polloi''

VV 94-04-02 - (book B) Kulturalis Szemle

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