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95-04-28 Stack & Seein'Red - drawing

First evening of the ‘Ceaseless Suffocation’ festival – no idea why Bruno made up this name – which was first intended as a one-day-er… This Friday evening in the pub was kind of a ‘preparation’ for the next day

Lots of bands had been announced in previous newsletters: ‘Propagandhi’ (Can), ‘U.F.D.’ (Ger), ‘Los Sommros’ (Cze), ‘Porcos Sujos’ (Por), ‘Zemezluc’ (Cze), ‘Acme’ … No idea what kept them away…


‘Acme’ definitely didn’t play this one….

Bart Jansen, ‘Deconsume’ guitarist

We didn’t play that gig…it was planned, but did not realize.

‘Soty’, ‘Zemezluc’s bassist/vocalist

‘Stack’ (from Ludwigshafen/Kaiserslautern) was formed Dec 1993 when Corey and Bernd (a couple a that time) wanted to do something different from ‘Abolition’ (92-09-06) music-wise. The line-up here was: Bernd Bohrmann (screams), Ralf ‘Flowerviolence’ Bock (drums), Chris(tophe) Klimmer (guitar; ex ‘Nyctophobic’), Marcel ‘Croissant’ Hanneman (guitar) and Corey von Villiez (bass; replaced by a guy for 5 months, a bit later by Michael ‘Bpunk’ Bergweiler). In May ’94 they recorded a demo (white box with a red dot on the back – a ‘slight’ hint to their love for Jap-thrash). For those who don’t have the tape, check it out. Their music would be described as power-violence. From the review of this in my zine Tilt! #8 “Once in a while a person needs a brutalisation of the senses like this, to be able to feel human.”; the conclusion: “Essential material!”. A bit after this gig they did recordings for the split-7”s with ‘Seein’Red’ (called Backbone) and ‘Capitalist Casualties’ ‎(both on Equality recs, Corey & Bernd’s label). After the recording of this Corey left the band (which was in the Summer of ‘95) …

Apparently they played the next day => 95-04-29 photos ‘Ceaseless Suffocation’ festival

95-04-28 Stack & Seein'Red - photo

‘Seein’Red’ was on the We’re Punks Not Crusties tour together with ‘Stack’ (see pic that was on the split-7”). We’d seen the ‘brothers’ at various places but as far as I can remember this was only their 2nd passage in the V.V. Off course everyone knows their vast discography but just to give an indication; they had just recorded for the Trefwoord Punk 7” (with the Dutch lyrics) and Wicked Witch recs put out the More Of The Same 7” that was recorded late ’94… Sascha May (Evilspeak zine) recorded their set here and put the tape out under the name Punk Is Verzet.

95-04-28 Seein'Red Paul & Jos (by Marianne Waaijer)95-04-28 Seein'Red Jos' (by Marianne Waaijer)95-04-28 Seein'Red Jos (by Marianne Waaijer)95-04-28 Seein'Red Olav (by Marianne Waaijer)‘Seein’Red’ (Jos – bass & vocals / Olav – drums / Paul – guitar & vocals); pics taken by Marianne Waaijer

‘Gluebag’ (Liège) had played here already on 95-02-11. It was a ‘project that Phil, Willy and Jonas (who were or had been in ‘Hiatus’) did: playing punk à la ‘Disorder’… But it didn’t last very long… Wills had joined ‘Unhinged’ in the mean time, Jonas spent time with his mates of the Groninger squat-scene and Phil… Well don’t know what he was up to ;-)

I’ve no recollections of this gig myself. I used to work weekend-/night-shifts in a hospital during that period: perhaps I wasn’t even there…


I found the master-tape of the ‘Seein’Red’ concert at the V.V. from 1995 (which Gregor [Kanitz] and me later put out as a benefit-tape)…

Sascha May (Evlispeak zine)


‘Zemezluc’ (from the Brno area) played tuneful hardcore/ punk. They have a immense discography and the line-up changed quite a few times. At that time were (I think) ‘Soty’ Pavel Zachoval (bass/vocals), ‘Ruda’ Rudolf Pospíšil (drums) and ‘Eda’ Karel Florián (guitar/vocals). Most of their tapes/records are self-released. Since ’97 Pavel Friml released their material on his label Papagájuv Hlasatel recs ( Apparently the bands still plays (…

‘Propagandhi’ had already been announced 95-03-05. I explained why they didn’t tour…

‘U.F.D.’ did a gig at the V.V. on 92-06-13

‘Acme’ had been here probably on 94-04-09. They’d probably split up by then – see ‘Acme’ interview in Tilt! #8.

‘Los Sommros’ was an anarchist HC-punk band from Brno, Czechoslovakia.

‘Porcos Sujos’ (“Dirty Pigs”; orginially ‘PSP’ or ‘Porcos Sujos Punk’), from Portugal, arose after the split of ‘Subcaos’. They were said to be influenced by Scandinavian HC.



 excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 95-04-28 - (book B) Stack & Seein'Red

VV 95-04-28 - (book B) GluebagVV 95-04-28 - (book B) Gluebag'

VV 95-04-28 - (book B) visiterYannick ‘Pikpik’?

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95-03-05 Naked Aggression newyearcardNew Year card Kirsten sent me…

‘Propagandhi’ were/are a “Political, yet humorous punk-rock band” from Winnipeg. They were signed to Fat Wreck Chords (a commercial label dealing with majors). That’s why I didn’t want them to play the Vort’n Vis. Bruno had other opinions… The band was: Chris Hannah (guitar & vocals), John K. Samson (bass; replaced by Todd Kowalski in ‘97) and Jordy/Jordan Samolesky (drums). Mike of Bad Food For thought (distro from Propaghandi’s hometown) wrote me (March 96) that Jord, the drummer, got ill with mono(nucleosis) the day they were supposed to leave on tour. Guess they didn’t make it over then… Can’t recall them playing anyway…


That sounds right. Was either mono or he broke his foot playing hockey. Can’t remember which. We have played Belgium since. Marcus from ‘But Alive’ and Marco [Walzel] from Avocado bookings did the later tours I think.

Chris Hannah

The locals (Ieper and surroundings) of ‘Carcer Molochi’ had done their debut here (94-12-31) and filled in… Most of them were or would become Vort’n Vis shitworkers: Erwin Degryse (guitar), David Stubbe (drums), Danny Suffys (bass), Johan Seys (vocals), Michael Maes (guitar) and Inge Capoen (vocals) played pagan, back-to-nature crust-punk (“a mix of ‘Anisect’, ‘Hiatus’, ‘E.N.T’ & ‘Antischism’…”, I wrote in my ‘zine). A few months after this they recorded their demo. In ’97 Michael and Inge (who are a couple) started ‘Link’…

Carcer Molochi demo-coverdemo-tape

‘Naked Aggression’, an anarchist classic HC/punk band (originally from Madison, Wisconsin but at the time of this tour they were already living in N. Hollywood) were Kirsten Patches (vocals), (Phillip Emil) Phil Suchomel (guitar; R.I.P. 1998), Ty Smith (drums; he’d been here also with ‘Resist’, R.I.P. 2011) – looks like Greg Watson was the bassist on this tour (he was also on the Bitter Youth 7” & the March March Alive LP). On the ‘Aus-Rotten’/‘Naked Aggression’ split-7” & on the Plastic World 7” (both out in 1994) John/Juan Jiminez (later also in ‘Los Crudos’) played the bass but he didn’t do this tour as he had quit the band… At that time I distributed the They Can’t Get Me Down 7” that was re-released on the German label Campary recs (ran by Armin Heitman and his girlfriend Katia, from-Düsseldorf)…. Kirsten still keeps the band going. Have a look on their website:

‘Naked Aggression’ photographed by Wim DL:

95-03-05 Naked Aggression (by Wim DL)95-03-05 Naked Aggression' (by Wim DL)

‘Kurort’, a HardCore band from Bad Ischl (Austria) played here for the 2nd time (see: 92-05-02). Andreas ‘Andi’ Wimmer (vocals), Florian ‘Flo’ Sedmak (guitar & vocals), Martin Wimmer (bass), Rudi Vogtenhuber (drums). They played strong, powerful HC with personalized political lyrics (sung in Upper Austrian dialect). They already release some stuff themselves but we got to know them through the Stachanov LP on Tiberiju’s Sacro Egoismo (Stachanov in ’94; Miss Fitness USA in ‘95). The latter was a co-release with Joris De Buysser’s Conspiracy recs). Joris would also release the Oslo 7” in’96. A fan wrote about them: “The flagship of Austrian 90s moshcore. ‘Kurort’ knew the handicraft of advanced thrash-riffing as no other Austrian band and embedded this in the drag-and-strain-Hardcore (Zerrcore) of the times. Their musical proficiency never resulted in technical hick-hack virtuosity but in well-constructed songs with doomy riffs checked by high impact drumming and driving blast beats. Andreas Wimmer on strained vocals added suffering and memorable choruses, that even showed some pop-sensibility.”…


Kurort (Flo-Rudi-Andi-Martin) promo‘Kurort’ (Flo – Rudi – Andi – Martin) promo-pic

I remember the Vort’n Vis very well, as it donated a running gag in the ‘Kurort’-conversations: “We have some nice sleeping-places upstairs.”, I think it was when we toured with ‘Naked Aggression’: it was March, it was very cold and it even snowed a bit. There was no heating in the venue except for all the people showing up. When we took a look at the ‘nice sleeping-places’, we decided not to use them, no matter what: What I recall, are empty and ice-cold rooms, broken windows and wet and foul mattresses. After the gig we wanted to sleep the on stage – even there with all the spilt beer, etc., it was cleaner than upstairs. And it was still warm from all the people that had gone then. But whoever was in charge refused because we were suspected to empty all the bottles at the bar overnight. We insisted anyway but our promise that we wouldn’t take anything from the bar was not trusted, so one of the V.V.-collective played the watchdog and slept on the floor behind the bar.

I also remember that the driver in the car riding before our van suffered a heart-attack on the highway and rolled off the road down into a field a few minutes before we came into Ieper – I guess that was in 1995 aswell.

Touring with ‘Naked Aggression’ wasn’t too enjoyable: up to 9 people in a small van… We only made friends with their hired drummer Ty Smith. He ‘who cannot be named’ [Dolf H.] and his network booked the tour…

I don’t remember ‘Propaghandi’ playing.

Florian ‘Flo’ Sedmak (

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 95-03-05 - (book B) Naked AggressionVV 95-03-05 - (book B) N.A. Greg Watson

VV 95-03-05 - (book B) Kurort

VV 95-03-05 - (book B) Carcer MolochiVV 95-03-05 - (book B) Carcer Molochi'VV 95-03-05 - (book B) Carcer Molochi JohanDavid Carcer’s surreal scriblings are untranslatable, I’m afraid ;-) * Apparently it was Johan’s birthday…

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