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Intro: 94-09-16&17&18 6th Leed festival

There was record/literature fair going in the Vort’n Vis yard. I believe this is where I met Jon Elliott (Active distribution, London) for the first time. Concerts were in the barn…

94-09-18 Oi Polloi - Matthew Finch - Chris - Calum - Deek lost voice (by Michael M)‘Oi Polloi’ (Matt – Chris – Calum) closely watched by Stef De Leersnijder (pic courtesy Michael Maes)

According to Michael Maes this was the gig ‘Oi Polloi’s Deek had lost his voice… (Their guestbook-entry hints drummer Chris took over.) The other guys that played in the band that day were guitarist Matt(hew) Finch ‘Finchy’ (a.k.a. Keith Chugwin), bassist Calum Mackenzie (nowadays in ‘Phobia’ & ‘Final Conflict’) and drummer Chris ‘Wheelie’ Willsher. In the Luxemburg zine Persons Unknown ‘Oi Polloi’s bassist was referred to as ‘Clive’… After having played with the Portugese ‘Subcaos’ earlier that year (see 94-04-02), they were now on the road with ‘Inkisiçao’ & ‘X-Acto’ (This Is Not Amerikka tour). A guy named Al was their driver.

‘X-Acto’ (from Lisbon) was a vegan straight-edge HC band at the beginning but left the SxE label when a new guitarist joined. João Pedro (guitar), Pedro Mateus (bass), Diogo Mateus (drums), Pedro ‘Dentes’ (vocals; replaced by Rodrigo Barradas -R.I.P.- here?), João Barrelas ‘Libelinha’ (guitar; also in ‘Subcaos’); guitarist Paulo Segadães joined in 1995, later also Ricardo Avelino. In 1992 They appeared on the split-tape Juntos Contra A Tourada (with ‘Inkisição’, ‘Mentes Podres’ & ‘Subcaos’) and in ’93 on Change Now!, a compilation (on Slime recs) with ‘Subcaos’, ‘Corrosão Caótica’, Inkisição’ & ‘Alcoore’. Slime recs (the later Ataque Sonoro) also released their split-CD with ‘Inkisição’ in ’93. The year of this gig they had a 7” (Somos Uma Só Voz; recorded Sept. ‘93) out on Rage Productions (Portugese label from Cacem). The CD Harmony As One (with guitarists ‘Sega’ & ‘Libelinha’ and vocalist Rodrigo) on Ataque Sonoro came out Oct. ’95 and was distributed by Active. They also started S.E.L.F. to organise concerts/benefits…

‘Rain Like The Sound Of Trains’, from Washington DC, (with records out on Dischord) were Bobby Sullivan (vocals, ex ‘Soulside’), Pete Chramaiec (guitar, ex ‘Verbal Assault’), Douglas ‘Dug’ Birdzell (a.k.a. Dug E. Bird, ex ‘Beefeater’ & ‘Fidelity Jones’; bass) and Joshua LaRue (a.k.a. Josh Payne; drums). They played quirky, rhythmic, funky, jazzy “post hardcore”. Their tour was organised by X-Mist…

‘Ivich’ (the Paris suburbs) [interview] played here a couple of times before (92-07-25 & 93-05-01). A correspondent of mine, Eric Mirguet, sang for them. The others were the bros Yves (drums) & Yann (guitar) Maisonneuve (both were in ‘Vanilla’ later on); and Cédric (bass). Their trumpetist named Thierry was also joining them on stage from time to time. They were dubbed ‘emo’ but they were so much more than that. (As they wrote in the guestbook: “A bit of poetry in a world of brutes”.) I mentioned their earlier releases in the other posts. Their album La Mort Heureuse (“noisy, messy and unpredictable, but equally riveting, passionate and sincere”) was released by my mates Olivier Lépine and Nicolas Fisseau on their label La Libre Expression in ‘94.

Brob

I was driving ‘R.L.T.S.O.T.’ but since I was touring constantly back then I can’t recall anything specific… There was Joshua on drums. He was my first connection to the band. Dug on bass. I loved his cooking-style: vegetables, salt and pepper; that’s it. Anything else would kill the taste. I still do it the Dug way… The guys bought a bike in Amsterdam at the tour-start. So we toured with a bike on board through Europe. Funny tour! Armin [Hofmann; X-Mist] booked the tour, my friend drove them around for a week or so and I accompanied them some days. The first half of the tour I was the driver. I picked them up in Amsterdam.

Ma Raab

I was there when ‘Rain Like The Sound Of Trains’ played. I was in Ieper while riding with my bike to France (was wandering Germany and stopped there before I went to the UK).

Phil Jahnke

I played guitar with ‘Oi Polloi’ 1994-1997. I think I played 3 gigs at the Vort’n Vis. First was on the tour with ‘Subcaos’ [94-04-02] / ‘X-Acto’ [here]. Played a couple of all-day events there… Pretty crust they were; ‘Extinction Of Mankind’ [7th Leed festival, 1995] & ‘Bad Influence’ spring to mind. We probably played on Saturday… [The newsletter and the guestbook say Sunday.]

Matt Finch

Don’t think I drove ‘Oi Polloi’ that time; it looks like a guy called Al Shackelton drove that time (he’s no longer with us). My memories are a bit hazy. Can’t really remember watching the bands. I hung out with some people from Portugal who were friends of ‘Subcaos’. 2 Finnish guys got pissed on KillU…

Col(in) Douglas

The members of ‘X-Acto’ are into electronic music nowadays, the same for the ‘Alcoore’ guys; ‘Simbiose’ are still active and they are going to play soon with ‘Ratos de Porão’ [2013]. ‘Corrosao Caótica’ are over but played a reunion-show in 2012, ‘Tropa Morta’ & ‘Fart’ are ‘dead’ and the vocalist of ‘Censurados’ has a successful melodic/pop-punk band named ‘Tara Perdida’.

João (Pedro) Abrantes, guitarist of ‘Subcaos’

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 94-09-18 - (book B) Ivich

VV 94-09-18 - (book B) Oi PolloiChris Willsher: “Deek’s guestbook entry says I did ‘a Josef Porta’ (singer/drummer with ‘Blyth Power’, and ex-drummer with ‘The Mob’ and ‘Zounds’) – as in drumming and singing. Nice of him to do such a flattering drawing of me too!”

VV 94-09-18 - (book B) X-ActoBrob: “The Slovenian mentioned was most probably Tomaz Trplan (editor of Papermouth zine).” * Chris Willsher: “No, it was a guy called Enzo Giurgevich, who was roadie for ‘Inkisiçao’. He’s in a band called ‘No Limits’ these days…”

additions wellcome!…

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VV newsletter 94-09-16&17&18 (a)

VV newsletter 94-09-16&17&18 (b)

VV newsletter 94-09-16&17&18 (c)Evolution of announcements in the Vort’n Vis newsletters

=> the actual ‘bill’ (???) – Accounts of the actual festival-days can be accessed by clicking on the links below…:

16 sep ’94: Força Macabra (Fin), Insane Youth (Bel), Corpus Christi (Bel), Zabloudil (Cze)

17 sep ’94: Citizen Fish (UK), AOS3 (UK), Bender (UK), Inkisiçao (Por), Bad Influence (Bel), Selfish (Fin), Agathocles (Bel), Der Machinisten (Bel)

18 sep ’94: Rain Like The Sound Of Trains (USA), Ivich (Fra), Oi Polloi (UK), X-Acto (Por)

‘Inkisicao’, ‘X-Acto’ & ‘Oi Polloi’ toured together:

94-09 Inkisicao, X-Acto and Oi Polloi - This Is Not Amerikka tourThis Is Not Amerikka tour (somewhere along the road) – ‘Oi Polloi’s Matt Finch, Deek, Chris ‘Wheelie’ Willsher, Calum Mackenzie; plus Joao Barrelas ‘Libelinha’ (‘X-Acto’) & Guilherme Charters

94-09-17 Inkisicao Lena + Chris Oi PolloiHelena (‘Inkisiçao’) & Chris (‘Oi Polloi’) at the Vort’n Vis

‘Citizen Fish’, ‘AOS 3’ & ‘Bender’ were also touring together: the No World Order tour.

Since 1989 I was running a fanzine-distro-label in my hometown in Italy, Pavia, called AZ – DIY anarcho-punk hardcore crust stuff… In September 1994 I arrived in Belgium (Leuven, on a university-exchange program Erasmus) to stay there 8 months. I was already in contact with Brob (Tilt!, legendary epic mythological ‘zine) and Alain (Nabate, legendary epic mythological label), and I knew that the 2 places in Belgium to go were Vort’n Vis in Ieper and La Zone in Liège. My first gig was this festival in Ieper, and then for the following 8 months I was in Ieper or Liège in the pit at gigs, almost every weekend. At the time the mainstream in the Italian HC/punk-scene was US S.E. (not for me, I didn’t like the music and the stupid macho attitude and I’ve never been S.E.; my religion doesn’t allow me to be S.E. – I’ve always drunk, smoked, etc.) and Californian melo-punk (OK, the first 2 LPs of ‘Bad Religion’ are good but please give me something more powerful and political). I was into English anarcho-punk (‘Conflict’, ‘Amebix’, ‘Antisect’) and crust (‘Doom’, ‘Sore Throat’, ‘Nausea’) and Italian HC (‘Contropotere’, ‘Wretched’, ‘C.C.M.’). So Belgium in 1994 was simply fuckin’ heaven: the best beer of Europe at ridicolously ultra-cheap price, endless pubs with no closing-time, open all night long, just a few kilometers away from the Dutch border coffee-shops with the best weed of Europe and a lot of gigs to go see the best touring bands of Europe and US, and finally – my favourite band at that times – ‘Hiatus’.

I got to the Leed festival by train, it was my first punk-gig outside Italy and I immediatly felt surprised in a positive way: no people asking for money and cigarettes all the time, no drunk people getting aggressive and creating trouble, lots of distros (I remember the ultra big stall John of Active distro did, it was wonderful to find so many things that I could not find in Italy brought to me directly from London!), very good and cheap beer, lots of people to talk with (many of which I was already in contact with by mail; and it was great to talk directly with people!) and, last but not least, a fuckin’ great gig, with a lot of my favourite bands at the time, especially from England: ‘Citizen Fish’, ‘AOS3’ and ‘Oi Polloi’; and then ‘Selfish’ – skandicrust at its best!! Sincerely: after 20 years, I remember mostly the atmosphere – angry but positive, “We’re fuckin’ tired of this shit but we don’t destroy ourselves, we want to create something different and alternative, something better…” And I remember on the way back to Leuven: alone on the train, exhausted and with a hang-over (“kater”, the only word I remember in Dutch…), looking at my new records and reading the Situationist books I got from Active distro, thinking “Holy shit! Great gig! I’ll go back to the next!”.

Piero Majocchi

I was at the ‘Citizen Fish’/’AOS3’ concert! It’s possible that Sammy [‘Soyhead’ Schneider, from Switzerland] was with me on that occasion, although I don’t remember exactly. I was travelling with him to North England and back, and we stopped in Belgium, but I don’t have very clear memories of us going to the Vort’n Vis concert together. What I do remember is being there with you, Brob. I also remember losing my glasses in front of the stage when everyone, me included, went crazy; and finding them while everyone around me was dancing.

Tomaz Trplan, Papermouth zine (Murska Sobota, Slovenia)

I’ll come to Ypres for the concert of ‘Inkisição’ & ‘X-Acto’. I’m so pleased they play at your place. I’m very much looking forward to see them again, especially Helena.

Michèle Marnach, Persons Unknown zine (Lux), personal communication Sep ‘94

Gregor Kanitz (A Jour distro, Düsseldorf) visited…

Was at this gig too, don’t remember too much of it I am afraid.

Bart Jansen, ‘Deconsume’ guitarist

I was there…

Luc Ardilouze, Scream zine (Bayonne, France)

I was there too, already my second Leed Fest at the V.V. Some great bands and amazing atmosphere. I kept coming to this fest for a few more years, always a pleasure!

Pawel, Scream recs (Gdansk, Poland)

I really don’t remenber how long we stayed in Belgium but I can recall that I really loved it and I talk about that tour-experience as the experience of my life :-)))) Unforgettable!

Helena Burbuleta, ‘Inkisiçao’ singer

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 94-09-17 - (book B) Joao PratoSome Portugese stayed the whole weekend…

VV 94-09-17 - (book B) Fun prods???

VV 94-09-17 - (book B) Cross FaderOne of the S.F. movies that were shown?

93-05-01 Spitboy - Ivich - One By One - Sedition

Extra photos of ‘Spitboy’ & ‘Dirt’

‘Spitboy’ was an all-female political HC band from the San Francisco Bay Area. The band consisted of Adrienne Droogas (vocals; she also did a zine called Too Far that I distributed – later she was also in ‘Aus-Rotten’), Karin Gembus (guitar; helped out at M.R.R. & Lookout! recs), Paula Hibbs-Rines (bass; later replaced by Dominique ‘Nikki’ Davison) and Michelle ‘Todd’ Gonzales (drums; played guitar for ‘Kamala & The Karnivores’ end of the ‘80s).

At the time of touring they had a self-titled 7” out on Lawrence Livermore’s Lookout! Recs (’92) and an LP (True Self Revealed) on Kent McClard’s Ebullition recs (’93). The last recording with Paula on bass was June 1994, for the Mi Cuerpo Es Mio 7” on Allied recs. In August ’94 they recorded the Rasana 7” with Nikki (also out on Ebullition). Their last vinyl was the split-LP with ‘Los Crudos’ (Viviendo Asperamente – Roughly Living) on Ebullition Recs (1995).

I recall I intended to do an interview with them for my zine but for some reason that went wrong; Vique ‘Simba’ Martin did one before this tour (read); ‘Hazel’ Lepers in her zine Superfluous #2 and Nathalie D. for Tom De Pauw’s Holy Hardcore #2…

‘Spitboy’s performance at the Vort’n Vis was video-taped.

‘Bugeyed’ (from Leeds) played (as described in Tilt! #7) “Noisy and heavy HC loaded with angry power.”. I also wrote: “Devilish! It brings out the bad in people.”. For those who want comparisons; I read somewhere: “‘Venom’ meets ‘Black Flag’; down-tuned, sloppy, negative punk rock”. They were: Andrew ‘Monkey’ Clark-Monks (guitar), Paul ‘Pig Havoc/Havok’ Clarke (vocals) – both ex ‘Pleasant Valley Children’ (see 90-06-24), Sarah Smith (bass; ex ‘Generic’) and Brian Talbot (drums; also ‘Doom’). Eric ‘Rich’ Rucker (2nd guitar on the album) wasn’t in the band anymore… Karl Horton released the Monsters Rule My World LP on his label Words Of Warning around that time. My pen-pal Steve Buxton (Ripping Thrash zine) also released some live tracks on a benefit-tape (for hunt-sabs; together with ‘Concrete Sox’) and Bri tells me there was a demo too…

9x-xx-xx Bugeyed (UK)‘Bugeyed’ – early line-up; (92-07-01) Duchess Of York, Leeds, UK (courtesy of Brian Talbot): Andrew – Bri – ‘Pig’ – ‘Rich’ – Sarah

The 2nd gig of ‘Sedition’ here (see 92-08-29). Glaswegians – or should I say Caledonians? – Angus ‘Gus’ Quinn (vocals), (Gill)Martin Mann (drums), Billy Steele (guitar) and Craig ‘Brycey’ Bryce (bass) came over again to give us a taste of their ‘pagan HC’. After their earlier material, that year (‘93) they did the Earth Beat LP (the one in the cloth bag) and the split-7” with ‘Disaffect’ on Sned’s Flat Earth recs. After they split up Craig went on to play with ‘Dawson’ (93-10-03), Billy played second guitar in Disaffect (94-05-22) and Angus and some mates formed ‘Scatha’…

93-05-01 Sedition (Karl P)‘Sedition’ (photo by Karl Penando)

‘One By One’ had been playing here before aswell (91-08-18, 92-03-08 & 92-08-29) and it wouldn’t be the last time either (94-08-06). Almost like family (from ‘up North’ – Newcastle), these people: ‘uncle’s Sned & Alec bringing us prezzies, and ‘cousin’ Karen and her boyfriend Micky… The Fight 7” (first release with Karin on vocals) was recorded Oct. 10th 1992. Later that year (Nov. 1993) they recorded a few tracks for the Atrapados En El Fascista Planeta Tierra (Caught On Fascist Planet Earth) 7” (the B-side was recorded live – Sned tells me in Leeds, at their 100th gig, supporting ‘Neurosis’).

Here’s some photos on the 93-05-15 concert they did in Lumigny, France…

93-05-01 One By One (by Karl P)‘One By One’ (photo by Karl Penando)

It was only a few weeks earlier (93-04-04) that ‘Dirt’ had been here (with ‘Hellkrusher’)… The line-up was the one of the Feast Or Famine demo (1993) with Deno on vocals, Gary ‘Gaz’ Buckley doing guitar, Karen on lead-guitar, bassist Mick and drummer Stef…

The day after this one they played @ Hof Ter Lo in Antwerp (with ‘Spitboy’, ‘Instigators’ and some others) so the ‘Baddies’ were already here to pick ‘em up and start the party. Deno mentions meeting ‘Instigators’ (but that must’ve been in Antwerp).

From Deno ‘Dirt’s diary (thank you!):

93-05-01 Dirt (Deno on tour)93-05-01 Dirt (Garry & Herwin)[Jimyh Anti (with bandana) – Holy Herwin & redhead friend]

‘Ivich’ came over for the 2 nd  time aswell (see 92-07-25). This was around the time they released the Chacun Sa Vérité 7” (on Pikaϊa): “fast and fiery emotional HC, chunky mosh-metal and odd, free-form undistorted pauses”. Eric, Yann, Yves & Cedric also brought their trumpet-player…

93-05-01 Ivich (by Karl P)‘Ivich’ (photo by Karl Penando)

Brob

I remember trying to crash out upstairs while there was a techno-party going on after the gig with ‘Bugeyed’. I also have an image of Alec of ‘One By One’ dancing rave-style, possibly even DJ-ing? That time I drove so was probably knackered. We were only in Europe for a week or so I remember we played Hamburg and the last gig was in Amsterdam followed by a mad dash to the ferry.

I found the last ‘Bugeyed’ recording on a cassette which I’d forgotten existed. 10 tracks which I think are the best thing we did. It was supposed to be an EP but never went any further as I went travelling and everything just ground to a halt. I have put one ‘Bugeyed’ track (Breakout At The Science Lab) on-line. I do a bit of computer-music nowadays and mess about with new software (‘Monobrow The Biped‘)…

Andrew ‘Monkey’ Clark-Monks , ‘Bugeyed’ guitarist

Sorry, no recollections…

Rich was part of ‘Disney Corpse Graphics’ with Ash and ‘Pig’… They did cover-art for ‘Sore Throat’s Disgrace To The Corpse Of Sid & ‘Doom’s Greatest Invention…

Bri Talbot

I wasn’t in ‘Bugeyed’ anymore at that point, in fact I think I would have already been living in Italy! Not that anybody cares but I wasn’t part of ‘Disney Corpse Graphics’ who did the cover-art for ‘Sore Throat’s Disgrace To The Corpse Of Sid, that was just Ash and ‘Pig’. Ash, ‘Pig’ and me had a different thing called Secret Devil that did the cover for Doom’s Greatest Invention. Secret Devil did – if I remember properly – a booklet of poems by Syd Migx from ‘Cheetah Chrome Motherfuckers’, a booklet of stuff by ‘Pig’, one of drawings by Ash and some other stuff, as well as three copies of a fanzine called Clowns Killing People. And a ‘Sore Throat’ single-cover, now I come to think about it. Also, I was in ‘P.V.C.’ too – it’s me playing on the Fuck Kill Destroy album, I joined after Percy left (Or whatever happened, I was too young and stupid to ask!). Like I say, of no possible interest to anyone but just for the sake of exactness!

Eric ‘Rich’ Rucker (2nd guitar on the album)

Paula was our first bass-player – she left the band and Dominique joined for the last couple of years. Paula toured Europe with us – Dominique was with us on one US tour and when we toured Australia, New Zealand and Japan.

There’s some pieces on my blog about ‘Spitboy’ (The Riot Grrrl Controversy) and touring (The Spitboy Rule: Part I & Part II)

93-05-01 Spitboy - European Tour 1993Top: Michelle ‘Todd’ Gonzales, Paula Hibbs-Rines, Pete the roadie; Middle: Jon Hiltz, Nolde, Erich (merch and drivers); Bottom: Karin Gembus & Adrienne Droogas

Michelle Gonzales, ‘Spitboy’ drummer

We had my birthday-party after the Vort n Vis gig (May 1st) we’d played next door… Got dragged off the dance-floor by ‘open-minded’ punks who couldn’t understand how we could play like ‘Sedition’ but like gabbers as well! [for some pics scroll down here]

‘Brycey’, ‘Sedition’ bassist

93-05-01 Sedition Brycey (via Billy Steele)‘Brycey’ (pic donated by Billy Steele)

This gig turned into a big dance-party afterwards; the ‘Sedition’ lot liked a bit of techno to be sure.

Sned, ‘One By One’ drummer

Another great gig, loads of good people about + proper good party afterwards. Think it was Bricey’s birthday, there are probably pictures of us dancing badly which are best kept in darkened rooms [Brob: already posted ;-); see link above…]. All the bands were good. ‘Spitboy’ were great. ‘One By One’s last gig at the V.V. [Brob: last one for ‘1×1’ was 94-08-06; see above] but a good one to go out on. This was one of the rare times we weren’t rushing off to catch a ferry so was great to hang out + catch up with folk. Thanks to everyone who turned up + helped out; and to Brob for reminding me of some great times.

Alec Mac, ‘One By One’ bassplayer

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 93-05-01 - (book B) Ivich

VV 93-05-01 - (book B) Sedition

VV 93-05-01 - (book B) Micky 1x1

VV 93-05-01 - (book B) Spitboy

VV 93-05-01 - (book B) Karin Spitboy

VV 93-05-01 - (book B) QQQ Adsrienne SpitboyAdrienne ?

additions wellcome!…

‘Ego’ ended up not doing this Euro tour, we actually weren’t on it; only did the 1991 Go! Euro tour. The band was myself on guitar, Charlie Adamec (bass) & Jim. [Brob: And a guy named Dave on drums.]

Mike ‘Bullshit’ Bromberg

The Vort’n Vis was my favourite European venue.

Joe Martin, ‘Hell No’ bassist

Actually remember that show very well. We were excited to play there.

John Woods, ‘Hell No’ singer

‘Hell No’ was a great hardcore/emo band from NY. After ‘Citizens Arrest’ quit, guitarist Janis Chakars and bassist Joseph ‘Joe’ (Brendan) Martin formed ‘Hell No’, together with Ted Leo (also ex-guitarist of C.A.’; but he wasn’t in the band when they came to Europe). Vocalist was John Woods and drummer Jim (James) Paradise (of ‘Go!’ – see 91-06-08). The other guitarist was Aaron Kaufman (also in Go!). Their self-titled 7” (recorded at Don Fury’s NYC studio) was out on my mate Freddy Alva’s label Wardance recs. The Skin Job LP was soon to follow…

‘Decline’ were back. Paul ‘Cyb’ Lewis (drums) and Julian (guitar & vocals) found themselves another bassplayer – Mark ‘Whitey’ Wightman (During their tour with Go! – see 91-06-08 – it was Graham.); who used to play drums for ‘Electro Hippies’… After that 1st tour (October 1991) they had recorded their 2nd 7” entitled Lost Again.

‘Ivich’, a bunch from the Paris suburbs, played self-willed emocore (some would say ‘screamo’) band. Their music was quite innovative and sometimes interspersed with nervous trumpet outbursts. They consisted of Eric Mirguet (vocals), Yves Maisonneuve (drums), Cédric (bass), Yann Maisonneuve (guitar; later in ‘Vanilla’ with his brother) & Thierry (trumpet). This was their 1st gig here; at which timepoint they had a demo out (called Sculpteur De Cris)… I corresponded with their singer, Eric, who was a very kind and intelligent chap.

‘Creepshow’, HC from Treviso, had a 7” out on Inauditi dischi (Parisian label that also released stuff by bands such as ‘Maze’, ‘Permanent Scar’, ‘By All Means’, etc.). They were announced in one of the newsletters at that time but not on the flyer… The singer confirmed me via via that they never played outside Italy.

This was probably ‘Selfish’s debut at the V.V., their first appearance of a whole row (see e.g. 93-10-31). Here Otto brought along ‘War System’, another one of his projects… It wasn’t always clear who was in which band.

Brob

‘War System’ on that tour was: myself on bass, Jaska on guitar and Vikke on drums & vocals. ‘Selfish’ here was: me drumming & vocals, Vikke playing guitar and Jaska on bass. Ha ha, what a circus….!

Otto Itkonen

This time on tour with ‘Hell No!’, a two month (about 50+ shows in 65 days) long gruelling episode of a tour where we all lost friends and made new friends, fell out, made up again. ‘Ego’ didn’t play on this tour. This show was one of the last one and probably one of the best of the tour, we’d had a couple of days off in Haarlem and came to the Vort’n Vis refreshed. ‘Hell No’ rocked it with ease and we really enjoyed it. Whitey crowd-surfed while playing bass. Out of all the places we played in Europe the Vort’n Vis had the best mixed crowd, a real nice bunch of people. It was a great venue to play.

Edward wanted me to play for ‘Nations on Fire’ in 92/93 after we came back from the ‘Hell No!’ tour as their drummer had a bad accident. I couldn’t do it but Jamie from ‘Jailcell Recipes’ did it. The last band I was in were a death-metal band called ‘Godbotherer’ but I am looking at drumming for a more old-school HC band.

Paul ‘Cyb’ Lewis, ‘Decline’ drummer

I think Mathias and I travelled to Ieper two or three times together but he also was there once or twice on his own. I don’t remember ‘Hell No’ but ‘Selfish’ were lots of fun..

Carsten Pötter, visitor from Frankfurt

I had met Bruno when he was driving along with ‘Nations On Fire’, at the gig in AJZ Homburg [Saarland, Germany] (an incredible gig at an incredible place: ‘N.O.F.’ with ‘Sleepy Lagoon’, ‘Articles Of Faith’ and ‘Born Against’). He’d given me his address (because I wanted to order records or something) and it was written on one of the program-flyers of the Vort’n Vis. That way I realized there was a great venue/centre in Ieper, asked Bruno about it and he more or less invited me to come over. Because I had liberal parents, I made plans to come to Belgium during my summer-break. I don’t know whether it was a coincidence or not but my father and my younger brother went on some cyclo-tourist tour through Flanders at that time, which gave me the chance to meet my parents and my younger brother after my visit to the V.V., and drive back with my mother. So I took of with the train by myself: from Hassel/Rohrbach (Saar) via Trier, Luxembourg, Brussels to Gent. Bruno said he wouldn’t be able to pick me up but a good friend of his – Brob – would pick me up in Gent. So we met… Carsten and Mathias were crashing at Brob’s place and we actually visited the big street-festival [Brob: the Gentsche Feeste], briefly met Bruno and I think the next day we went to Ieper. The gig was on my 15th birthday.

You can imagine what a feeling of empowerment, enlightenment that gave me; fun, getting to know things about a world that was there for me… I had managed (we always had a Belgian trains-schedule book – no internet then) to make it to a place that was 2 countries away. I saw Bruno again, who I had briefly talked to at that HC gig near my home, and met Brob and a lot of others. The feeling of community was very strong. I was impressed by the Flemish scene – although from Brob’s perspective it was in a phase of decline, wasn’t it?). Brob’s involvement definitely made an impression on me, because the interconnection of the HC-scene with the world of political literature and a vast amount of fanzines. I got enriched a lot by Brob and his political perspective on things, the stuff he was reading and distributing. I had gotten a deeply ingrained political consciousness by my parents (especially by my mother) and the ‘scene’ put that in a bigger perspective. Brob was somebody who reconnected much of that, partly because he didn’t limit himself to one of the sub-scenes in a strict sense and had a political view on the things happening. Although a bit older, his perspective was integrating, not discouraging.

I came back to the V.V. twice that summer, I was completely set alight by the straight edge scene… [more elsewhere]

Jörg Jacoby, visitor from Saarbrücken

Here’s a bunch of photos by Karl Penando (merci beaucoup!):

‘Hell No’ (L=>R): Aaron, John, Jim, Joe, Janis (2nd pic: a very young Jörg J. far R)

‘Decline’ (L=>R): Julian, Paul & Whitey (1st pic: Hans Verbeke & Jörg J. in the middle; 2nd pic: a Edward ‘N.O.F.’ jumping & with the backpack: Ludovic H.?)

‘Ivich’ (L=>R): Yann, Yves, Eric, Cédric

‘Selfish’ (L=>R): Vikke, Otto, Jaska

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Joost Dierick informed me that he had noted ‘Human Alert’ also played that day. I’ve no recollections of that and there’s no trace to be found of it either. They were definitely not announced and Roel, their singer, informs me he can’t remember either. Here’s the story…

Brob

We played in Fance and Spain with ‘Hell No’. I came to Belgium, Germany and Poland with them. I used to organise concerts in Haarlem and foreign bands regularly stayed over during their tours. If they were fun enough, I happened to travel with them for some days. This was also the case with ‘Go!’ & ‘Decline’.

Rob Mandemaker, ‘Human Alert’s bassplayer

Roel & Willem weren’t there. The boys of ‘Hell No’ sang Anarchy & Justice [song from ‘H.A.’s 1st 7” with the same title]. I have photos of that; they’re also in the booklet of ‘Human Alert’s CD Sex & Drugs & Anarchy. We played over ‘Hell No’s equipment. They were a band that was far ahead of their time!

Sven Korvemaker, ‘Human Alert’s guitarist

‘Human Alert’ later played at The Massacre Fest no.1 [2002-06-29, with ‘Funeral Dress’, ‘Urban Blight’, ‘Dirty Scums’, ‘The Accused’, etc.] in the ‘new’ Vort’n Vis. I believe we didn’t play in Belgium during the 90s. [Brob: The older band of Sven & Roel, ‘Courage’, played in Dendermonde and Mol in 1990.] A lot of our history is described in my Rock’n’Roel book.

Roel Smit, ‘Human Alert’s singer (also cartoonist and illustrator)

‘Human Alert’ was a “anarcho-punk” band from Haarlem/ Amsterdam; sometimes serious, often humorous. In 1991 they did a 7″ called Anarchy And Justice with the following line-up: Roel Smit (vocals), Willem Geerts (vocals & trombone), Sven Korvemaker (guitar; also ‘N.R.A.’), Rob Mandemaker (bass) and Thomas (drums). A lot more followed…

Brob

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excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

visitors Jörg Jacoby (from Saarbrücken), Carsten Pötter & Mathias Hartmann (both from the Frankfurt area)

A flirting Kris?…

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