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Bassist Beckie Gibbons had left ‘Chaos UK’ (from Bristol) before their 1994 US tour and ‘RamRaider’ Marv(in) replaced her. ‘Nausea’s guitarist Vic(tor) ‘Venom’ Dominicis (also ex ‘Reagan Youth’) had joined as second guitarist (he had been at the V.V. already during their first passage 93-11-21). Pat ‘Devilman’ Evans had replaced Chuck on drums. Their album Floggin’ The Corpse (some new recordings but mostly stuff recorded live in 1983) was released in 1995, after which all members left the band except Adrian ‘Chaos’ Rice (vocals; taking over from Kieran ‘Mower’ Moylett) and guitarist ‘Gabba’; the new bassist was J. Cloth and new drummer Phil Thudd… Their CD The Morning After The Night Before was recorded with that line-up in April 1996… The EP King For A Day was also released in ’96.

It was the ‘Varukers’ (Leamington Spa) 2nd time at the V.V. (see: 94-02-05) and they’d played Belgium in the 80s before… So their D-beat à la ‘Discharge’ was not new… In July ’94 they had recorded the Nothing’s Changed EP (released on Weird recs) with Anthony ‘Rat’ Martin doing vocals (also sang for ‘Discharge’ later on), drummer Kev(in) Frost, guitarist ‘Biff’ Ian Smith and bassist Brian Ansell. In 1995 We Bite recs did the Still Bollox But Still Here LP for them.

95-07-09-varukers-by-wim-dl‘Varukers’ (photo by Wim De Leersnijder)

Some ‘Fleas & Lice’ history… In the beginning of 1995 Oene Brandsma (ex ‘Chronicore’) had joined the band (see 93-02-06 & 94-03-19) on bass (Joshua Lagerwerf had left). In 1996 Esther took a break for half a year and Willy ‘Wills’ Nollomont (‘Hiatus’) replaced her for a while. In 1997 Piet (Pierre Erickson) got hit by a taxi-cab and couldn’t play guitar for 14 months. In 1998 Pelle replaced Maynard Schut on drums. In December 2002 Oene leaves the band and gets replaced by Stiff from Scotland. Jim got added in early 2004 as a second guitarplayer.

95-07-09-fleas-lice-ras-lbol-5‘Fleas & Lice’ (photo from Ludovic Hache’s zine Ras L’Bol #5)

‘Muggles’ (from the Mechelen area) played chaos-punk: Frédéric/Fred ‘Baskie’ Vandersype (vocals; Gnome zine & distro), Bruno ‘Sloef’ Mastyn (guitar; also ‘Intestinal Disease’), his brother Geert & his partner Manuella ‘Manu’ De Roover (drums). They did a split-7” with ‘Blindspot A.D.’ (Germany) on T.V.G. recs in 1996, and together with 3 other Belgian bands (‘Les Schtroumpfs Alcooliques’, ‘Hirudo’ and ‘Honey Honey’) they appeared on the Screams From Belgium ‎LP) that Tim Leten (Filth-Ear distribution) put out in 1997. They were invited back to the V.V. for a second gig on 98-04-19

‘Chosen Choice’ was a “thrashpunk” band from Lublin with guitarist Piotr(ek) Kowalczyk & drummer Marek (who was also in ‘Amen’). They had been playing at the V.V. already half a year eralier (94-12-31). Their tape, entitled Think For Yourself, was released by Lagart Factory (formerly Lagart Tapes; ran by Dariusz ‘Pała’ Palinowski, Paweł ‘Bocian’ Sikora & Tomasz ‘Mrówa’ Komorek of ‘Amen’ & Kultura Nędzy zine).


Michael [Maes] and myself were doing the entrance on this one, I think…

Henk Loobuyck

I started the band together with Geert & ‘Manu’ in 1991. We had several singers: Frédéric, Steve, Tom Jonckheere (later ‘Wizards Of Oi’), Erik Minnen (‘Cornucopia’) & Kurt van den Eynden (‘Noise Reduction’ & ‘Karma’)…

Bruno ‘Sloef’ Mastyn, ‘Muggles’ guitarist

I remember that we all took our wives/girlfriends at the time on this weekend-gig. They decided never to come again afterwards. ;-) I liked the venue and we always had a good crowd. Didn’t like sleeping upstairs though in February [the year before]… ‘Chaos UK’ were always fun to play with and are good friends. ‘Fleas & Lice’ were an excellent band also and great people. Again: we played with them a few times over the years…

Kevin Frost, ‘Varukers’ drummer

I recall that the English all had brought their girlfriends and slept in hotels, except for Brian, the ‘Varukers’ bassist. He stayed behind by himself and had to party all night in the V.V. with us…

Maynard Schut, ‘Fleas & Lice’ drummer

‘Chosen Choice’ was a two-piece and I believe they both dropped out years ago…

Pawel ‘Scream’

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:




vv-95-07-09-book-b-hogepontPaolo M. informs us of a new place that has been squatted in Ghent (May ’95). A building at the Hogepontstraat. Together with the adjoint (even bigger building) at the Scheldekaai (on the riverside) – squatted in February 1996 – that would be come the residence of a big bunch of ‘Schelderatten’ …

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94-03-19 Brawl - Fleas & Lice - Virtual Reality

‘Virtual Reality’ (Bradford) was a project/band that played ‘Black Sabbath’ influenced stuff (varying from groovy beats and heavy riffs to techno-based tracks) featuring Brian Talbot (guitarist of ‘Doom’; here on bass). He’d teamed up with Steve Butler (guitar) and Darron ‘Bill’ Ward (vocals), both of ‘The Next World’ (see 90-05-01). At this time they still used a drum-machine. They did a split-7” with ‘Neuthrone’ on Genet recs in 1994 and released their LP Dreamstate (Genet recs & Flat Earth recs) in 1995. During this tour here, they also did a show in Brugge where ‘Health Hazard’ played aswell (94-03-26) so I guess they were touring at the same time… Bruno (Genet) invited them over a couple of times more (94-05-08 & 96-04-27).

94-03-19 Virtual Reality (by Wim DL)‘Virtual Reality’; photo by Wim De Leersnijder

The Bradfordian invasion was complete with ‘Health Hazard’ (uncle Sned & Alec’s band between ‘One By One’ and ‘Suffer’) on the bill. They had been here already the summer before (93-09-18) and even earlier on this tour 94-03-05. They also did a gig here when Mandy had quit already 95-02-11. Their set in Toulouse (94-02-22) was recorded and Fred Jourdan (‘Ultimate Disorder’) put it out on a split-tape (with ‘Hiatus’). After this tour they recorded (with Bri ‘Doom’ Talbot behind the desk) for their 10” (released on Alec & Sned’s Flat Earth recs). For those who don’t know (?) or can’t remember: “abrasive, thrashing, overpowering blasts of hardcore fury with caustic female vocals”…

‘Brawl’ (another Genet band: they did their LP entitled Gulag on Bruno’s label – it was recorded July ‘94), had also been here before (93-09-04) and would come back (95-09-08). They toured with ‘Fleas & Lice. They were from Ireland and played straightforward HC/punk with some slower parts; some people said they have ‘Fugazi’ influences but I don’t hear that…

‘Fleas & Lice’ also didn’t need an introduction anymore (after 93-02-06). On the photo of this night we see vocalist Robbie Tempel, Joshua Lagerwerf (bass) & Esther (vocals). The others were Piet/Pierre Erickson (guitar) and Maynard Schut (drums). A few weeks after this, they recorded (in Dublin) for the split-LP with ‘Bleeding Rectum’ (another band with ‘Brawl’s drummer ‘Crispo’). The band would come back once more: 95-07-09.

94-03-19 Fleas & Lice (by Wim DL)‘Fleas & Lice’; photo by Wim De Leersnijder

‘Fleas & Lice’ (from Ludovic Hache’s fanzine Ras L’Bol #6)

Probably the band that holds the record of number of shows at the Vort’n Vis (being locals and having ‘signed’ to Genet recs): Steve Wackenier (guitar & vocals), David Stubbe (drums) & Tim ‘Nutje’ Denutte (bass). (Jan Lacante, an old budy of the band, just sang on recordings done in 1994 who were released in 2004). ‘Neuthrone’ had a split-7” with ‘Virtual Reality’ out. Their track Silverline (recorded Augustus 1993) should’ve been on another 7” already but something went wrong, so it was used for this split.

‘Portobello Bones’ were a “noise rock” combo from Tours/Orléans (France) with Lionel Fahy (guitar/vocals; Forked Tongues zine), Franck Leprêtre (drums) & Jeremy Johnson (bass/vocals). Or was Fabrice Metais still playing bass? At that time they had a 7” (Negative) under their belt, and a self-titled album. Not sure if they actually played (but they were announced in the newsletter)… Lionel says they didn’t but he did write me in ’94 thanking for the hospitality (see below)…


The picture shows ‘V.R.’ before we got a real drummer. L => R: Steve, Darron & me. Duncan (an old punk band from Hebden Bridge; he used drum in ‘Crash’, they did a split EP with ‘Crux’) joined on drums later.

Brian Talbot, ‘Virtual Reality’s bassist

‘Neuthrone’ indeed did a split-7” with ‘Virtual Reality’ and we toured with them (also with ‘Health Hazard’) in April 1994: Belgium, The Netherlands & Germany.

Steve Wackenier

Our track on the split with ‘Virtual Reality’ was from the same recording-session as the second single – relased right before or after the tour with ‘V.R.’ & ‘Health Hazard’. The title was “Silver Linings” [Silverline] but I hadn’t gotten that… Jan Lacante sang for ‘Neuthrone’ for about a year (e.g. on the Tilleherte demo).

David Stubbe

We all have great memories of Belgium becasue over there people know how to be hospitable. We’re definitely not anarcho-punks nor do we play pure, politically engaged hardcore but we all know which side we’re on…

Lionel Fahy, ‘Portobello Bones’ guitarist; personal communication ’94

About sleeping-places… Last time we played there, people were coming in and woke us up all night. Early in the morning someone was also playing drums. So we didn’t get much sleep. But the breakfast was excellent…

Piet, ‘Fleas & Lice’ guitarist

94 Brawl - Fleas & Lice tour

Six months after our first appearance, it was back to the V.V. on tour again with ‘Brawl’. Their bassplayer was still not touring with them so I got the call again to fill in. On this tour we were out every gig with ‘Fleas & Lice’ from Groningen – we are life-long friends at this stage, and they are one of the main instigators of the annual GGI festival which is organised every year rotating between the punks and bands of Groningen, Glasgow and Ireland.

I also had a replacement Rickenbacker thanks to ‘Kleister’ of Skuld releases (organising for me to buy one of Flo from ‘Squandered Message’ in Berlin who was selling it – a real stroke of luck). Unfortunately this one would also be stolen in later years! I am on my third Ric now – if that is ever stolen, I will take that as my cue to retire…

Anyway, there was a big Bradford contingent on the day there too with both UK bands containing mutual friends and acquaintances of members of ‘Brawl’ and ‘Fleas & Lice’ – it was always great to play such line-ups as you were guaranteed to meet up with old friends and to make new ones. I think ‘Sned’ from ‘Health Hazard’ may be the only person who could equal ‘Crispo’ for the amount of great bands he has played in over the years. Murt of ‘Brawl’ was a non-drinker and never missed a chance to network at such gigs to get the band new contacts/gigs/releases, etc. – a shrewd and charismatic guy when it came to promoting his band – that combined with the fact the guys had their own van (a total rarity in Ireland at that time for any band) meant they were the first DIY punk band from the South of Ireland to tour Europe. I was so glad to be along for the ride. Good times.

On the gig itself: I remember very little of it other than some of the bands on the bill were a bit too noisy for my liking – I had started to get older and do the old jaded touring guys trick of half-listening to the bands whilst drinking outside and talking shite to whoever would listen – a habit I carry with me to this very day.

Thomas Maguire a.k.a. ‘Tommy Trousers’

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 94-03-19 - (book B) Virtual Reality

VV 94-03-19 - (book B) Health Hazard + Virtual Reality

VV 94-03-19 - (book B) Neuthrone

VV 94-03-19 - (book B) Fleas & Lice

VV 94-03-19 - (book B) BrawlVV 94-03-19 - (book B) Brawl''

VV 94-03-19 - (book B) comment WardEdward Verhaeghe (‘Nations On Fire’):

“This concert was the first in a long series where everyone felt really good. What a wonderful atmosphere! Everyone was super-friendly to everyone: Liège ‘loves’ 8000 crew … or something of that kind??? Fantastic. This is the day where cook Hans [Verbeke; ‘Blindfold’, SoberMind recs] decided to ‘sign’ ‘Virtual Reality’. Also a day where all bias and stereotyping was contradicted. Some would describe this in many poetic verses.”

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93-02-06 Subway Arts - Fleas & Lice - Xinix (-)

This was a benefit for ‘Het Krakend Gewricht’ (‘the squeaky joint’; ‘kraken’ is also Dutch for squatting), a squatted housing-complex & anarchist infoshop in Gent (Slinkemolenstraat). There were people’s kitchens taking place and there was a “creative space” night. The people living there collectively wanted to gather some funding for their bike-repair- and other workshops, a music-/theatre-/dance-room, meeting-corner, etc.

I remember Pascal Benoot and Gratiën Versypt both lived there. I got to know them when they were just teens and needed a ride home after Smurfpunx-concerts. Later Pascal would set up performances and organise people’s kitchens at the ‘3 Charels’, another Gent squat. Gratiën went on to sing for ‘Katastrophobia’…

There was performance & slide-show planned during this “booze-benefit” but I can’t recall any of that…

93-02-06 Krakend Gewricht (a)93-02-06 Krakend Gewricht (b)

‘Xinix’ was a hardcore-punk band from the Dendermonde area: Bart ‘José’ Van Malderen (vocals), Jan ‘Bosse’ Bosteels (guitar), Hans Verheyden (bass) and Philip De Landtsheer (drums). Bart was studying in Gent and became a friend; I took him to concerts and stuff. He also organised some shows (in their local youth-centre) for bands I booked. Also set up a short tour for them (somewhere in ’92, together with ‘P.J.D.’). Can’t recall them releasing anything… They did a gig for Smurfpunx though: 91-03-23

The steady line-up of ‘4 Minute Warning’ (Gent) became Fred ‘Fré’ De Vos (vocals), Leffe (guitar, ex ‘Chronic Disease’), Tom Van Hauwaert (drums) and Gratiën Versypt (bass). There were also some extra vocalists (Bart/Marleen) at a certain timepoint, if I remember well… Marleen dated singer Fré. She’s pictured in In and around the Vort’n Vis. According to Tom they were “very much into the ‘Antischism’ dual-vox vibe”…

‘Subway Arts’ were a hardcore/punk band from Luxembourg. In 1991 the band released a split 12” titled All Life is Equal together with their mates of ‘No More’ on Markus Haas’ Per Koro recs (actually he ran it together with Tanja Maier). Two years later they released a 12” titled “Una Definizione Perveresa Della Pace” (‘93) – a collaboration of Genet recs and PeaCy recs (ran by Diff and Simone Winandy). They were: Claude ‘Bourano’ Bour (drums; Mike played on the split-lp but left also soon after), Steve ‘Diff’ Differding (guitar), Fränz Laureys (bass), Sabrina D’Aurelio (vocals; David on the split-lp) and Xavier (guitar). They’d played here before (92-12-20) and would visit a few times more (93-07-04, 93-08-01, 94-04-02, …).

‘Fleas & Lice’ (Groningen, The Netherlands) played noisy crust-punk and consisted of former ‘Extreme Noise Error’ / ‘Mushroom Attack’ (91-07-07 & 91-09-21) members Piet/Pierre Erickson (guitar), Robbie Tempel (vocals) and Maynard Schut (drums). They teamed up with Joshua Lagerwerf (bass) so this must’ve been one of their very first gigs. In March they toured Germany, Switzerland, France, Italy, Belgium and the Netherlands (with ‘Disorder’ and ‘Husker Ikke’). In April 1993 Esther (vocals) joined. Right before summer they recorded for the Parasites 7” released on ‘Kleister’s label Skuld Releases in 1993). A bit later they recorded live (Brno, Czech Republic, 93-06-20) for a split-7” (entitled Polish Bastards; with ‘Hiatus’ released on Pawel’s Scream recs. They would come back twice (94-03-19 & 95-07-09).


93-02-06 Fleas & Lice (Ras l'Bol)93-02-06 Fleas & Lice (Ras l'Bol)'‘Fleas & Lice’ (photos from Ludovic Hache’s zine Ras l’Bol)

I have vague recollections of this benefit… According to my notes our 1st gig was at Democrazy (Gent) 93-12-03 with ‘Deflower’ but perhaps this one with here, in the V.V. pub, with ‘Fleas and Lice’ was… We’d nagged Bruno for ages to play and when we were finally asked our guitarist at that time, Djenko, didn’t show up. So no guitarist; Gratiën applied his heaviest effect on his bass and we played all 3 of our songs (maximum 4 haha) like this, I think… After Djenko had abandoned us, we contacted Leffe, together with this guy Curdt Deganck (who’d played in a punk-band from the area of Zelzate/Assenede) – the latter never joined us, he was just a mate of Djenko with whom he’d been in a band. Those first songs and rehearsals (and even recordings in a cellar) were with Djenko. So I guess this was our infamous trio-moment then, where Yannick became fan for life, I believe… So, at Democrazy (an event called ‘Oppureepatattenfuif’…hahah), Leffe played already with us: Djenko never did a show with the band… The “dual-vox ‘Antischism’ vibe” only applied to the collaboration with Marleen, a try-out – we were never a match to ‘Antischism’. When me and Fré started we just had old ‘Disorder’/’Chaos UK’ punk in mind. When Leffe & Gratiën joined things go a bit more ‘versatile’.

So yes, the one at the V.V. would’ve been the first, we only just existed for a few weeks/months… Our other shows: with ‘Hiatus’ & ‘Unhinged’ @ La Zone (Liège  93-12-11), with ‘Legal Suffering’ & ‘Oi Polloi’ @ Alhambra (Oldenburg 93-12-17) and in 94 here with ‘Varukers’…

Everyone knows ‘F&L’ of course, my mind is blank regarding ‘Subway Arts’ and ‘Xinix’ was with Bart from the Dendermonde area; he dropped by at the squat regularly and I wouldn’t be surprised he rehearsed with us at one timepoint. I’m 100% sure he has a video-recording of our show at the Democrazy…

Tom Van Hauwaert

Can’t remember much about this gig. I played with ‘4MW’ at the Vort’n Vis once. [94-02-05] It was our worst one and also our last one. We only did 3. Our line-up for this was: Fré (vocals), Marleen (vocals), Gratiën (bass), Leffe (guitar) and Tom (drums).

‘Het Krakend Gewricht’ was one of the first squats in Gent. A few members of ‘4 Minute Warning’ lived there at the time.


The night before there was an info-night with slides and video about the Slinkemolenstraat. I believe my dad still has the video. I don’t remember anything of the concerts. I think I was on stage that night with someone of ‘Xinix’ together with Diego [Doodt Illegaal zine] en Ludo [Averechts zine]. Someone of ‘Xinix’ didn’t show up… We got on stage with a bunch of people who were unrelated to the band … ‘Fleas and Lice’ played aswell…

Pascal Benoot [one of the Slinkemolenstraat squatters at that time]

I can remember this concert. Though I can ‘t recall if ‘4 Minute Warning’ or ‘P.J.D.’ played. What I do know is that we left with Leffe & co from Gent in a van. ‘Fleas & Lice’ was very hot then; crusty punk-HC from Groningen and very sympathetic people. They even offered us to come over to play together in the Netherlands with ‘Disorder’. We were all very enthusiastic about that but it never happened…because our drummer’s parents wouldn’t let him…

Bart Van Malderen

‘P.J.D.’ didn’t play here… I was in Gent where I had a chat with ‘Deflower’ (a band from Turnhout with a member of ‘Moral Demolition’). Can’t recall much otherwise because of the boozing at that time.

Koen ‘Siesele’, ‘Private Jesus Detector’ bassist

I can ’t remember anything of that evening. Only that Fré and myself kicked one of the urinals to pieces… Jimmy Anti was watching us…

Gratiën Versypt

It was the very first concert of ‘Fleas & Lice’. We had contacted ‘Mushroom Attack’ to play the benefit but they had just split up. At that time that was a bummer for us hahaha but in the end we were very happy because it was a fucking good concert of ‘Fleas & Lice’. Outside some people of our squat did a performance with a lot of noise coming from scrap-metal (pieces of washing-machines and other old metal). There also was an electric guitar…

Paolo M.

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