Posts Tagged ‘Extinction Of Mankind’

95-09-17 Spite (by Albert C)‘Spite’ (photo by Albert Cheong)

95-09-17 Extinction Of Mankind (by Wim DL)‘Extinction Of Mankind’ (photo by Wim De Leersnijder) [Yannick Moulière on the L]

3rd day of the 7th Leed Festival

There was a band called ‘Spite’, from Bristol, with Beckie ‘Beki’ Gibbons (bass; ex ‘Chaos UK’), John Millier (drums; ex ‘Ripcord’ & ‘Can’t Decide’), Pete Rose (guitar, also ‘Icons Of Filth’) and Steve Hazzard (vocals; ex ‘Ripcord’). But the ‘Spite’ that played here was the band that would be named ‘Ebola’ (from Newcastle) – see 96-05-19 & 97-09-12 – with some people of ‘One By One’… This was their 2nd gig: Karin R. (vocals), Micky McGuinness (guitar), Andrew ‘Andy Stick’ Nolan (bass), Jonny (Jonathan ‘Lobster’ Shaw; guitar; R.I.P.) and Chris Patterson (drums). In the guestbook they compared their music with ‘Green Day’ (irony! – Bruno compared them with ‘Spazz’/’Crossed Out’).

‘Catweazle’, from Groningen, played raw, uptempo HC/punk with a metal touch. Michael Kopijn (drums & vocals; later ‘Tuco Ramirez’, ‘P.C.P.’, ‘Shikari’;, Erik Timmerman (bass), Emil ‘Reason’ (vocals; originally Maynard Schut of ‘Fleas & Lice’ was singing) and Axe Kooi (guitar). They did a few demo’s and afterwards the Cash And Pain Remain ‎mCD (recorded Oct ’95 and released by Profane Existence Far East), a split-10” with ‘Seein’Red’ (Kangaroo recs, Wicked Witch recs ’97) and the Form Of Fear ‎7” (Bad Card recs ‘98).

95-09-17 Catweazle bass+vox95-09-17 Catweazle drums95-09-17 Catweazle git‘Catweazle’ pics; courtesy of Michael Kopijn

After not showing up (or late) on 94-08-06, this was the 2nd time ‘E.O.M.’ was announced at the V.V. After the 1994 tour with ‘Doom’ Fozzy had left the band and was replaced by Ginny on bass. The others were Ste Dux (vocals), Dave Foz (drums) & Mass Centi (guitar). Work on the Baptised in Shit album began. The album recorded, the band set out on another tour of Europe with ‘Warcollapse’ in 1995 and the album was released during this tour. In 1996 they toured with ‘Misery’, were expected at the V.V. (96-01-20) but again didn’t make it…

95-09-17 Extinction Of Mankind Dave Foz95-09-17 Extinction Of Mankind vox95-09-17 Extinction Of Mankind bass Ginny95-09-17 Extinction Of Mankind guitar‘Extinction Of Mankind’; source unknown

There was something of ‘Contramenation’ (a German band – their guitarist Erol Schilder lived in Köln) in the guestbook and they had been mentioned in a newsletter but I don’t remember them playing. All I know of them, is that they featured on a compilation-7” with ‘Intestinal Disease’ (on Andreas Föcker’s label Born To Booze recs)…

A few of the ‘Uutuus’ (Finland) people improvised with a Turkish guy… This one-and-only project was called ‘Äpärä Kaaos’ (“Bastard Chaos”)… ‘Uutuus’ had played the V.V. already (93-10-31). I though it was Tay Ipek from the Turkish (Istanbul) band ‘Turmoil’ who joined in (He’d been at the V.V. before; 93-08-01) but apparently it was Kerim…


95-09-17 Apärä Kaaos (by Wim DL)‘Äpärä Kaaos’ (photo by Wim De Leersnijder)

‘Äpärä Kaaos’ (pics courtesy of Kerim Gönencer)

‘Äpärä Kaaos’ was just a drunken “project” where couple of guys just played some shit. [Marko Karimo (vocals), ‘Pedro’ Anthares (guitar)] We recruited a bass-player from the street during the festival – some Turkish guy [Kerim Gönencer; ex guitarist of ‘Moribund Youth’ & ‘Turmoil’] – and only did this show at the Vort’n Vis. We didn’t have any own songs, just covered classics. Jonne Kauko (‘Kirous’ drummer) joined in too.

‘Pedro’ Anthares

We were called ‘Spite’ at the time (for our first two shows only). The ‘Spite’ with John [Millier] was in, started at pretty much the exact time as us, we changed our name to ‘Ebola’, discovered there was a bunch of other bands called like that but big deal, at least we didn’t live in the same country as them…

That ‘Uutuus’ project was pretty funny/ terrible… ‘Äpärä Kaaos’ being so drunk the guitarist had to teach the bassplayer the next tune between every single song. On stage. In front of the entire audience. Quite the spectacle, I think they were just doing really bad covers of Finnish classics and formed on the spot when whoever it was dropped off…

After we played someone sincerely thanked me for head-banging the entire time we were playing. After the show there was almost a fight in the bar when some locals dared each other to come into the punk-bar and David (I think that was his name and I think he was maybe the drummer in ‘Neuthrone’ [He was in ‘Carcer Molochi’ at this time…]) jokingly said he couldn’t serve them because they were wearing the wrong shoes. A stand-off occurred and Jonathan (‘Spite’s vocalist) very helpfully decided to stand behind me with his hand on my shoulders, jumping in the air and yell “Me & Andy are from Benwell (the not particularly nice part of Newcastle we lived in at the time) and we’re going to fuck you up!”. It was stupid but also hilarious.

It was my first time in Europe and my first time experiencing punk as a global, spatio-political phenomenon.

Andrew Nolan a.k.a. ‘Andy Stick’, ‘Spite’ bassist (later ‘Ebola’, ‘Shank’, …)

This was a memorable concert…

‘Oene’ of ‘Fleas & Lice’ rehearsed with our band (as 2nd guitarist) for a while (autumn 1995) but he never did any concerts with us…

Michael Kopijn, ‘Catweazle

Well the thing is: the Vort’n Vis shows were always on the return for the boat… I think the pics were a sort of tour we did with ‘Warcollapse’. The ‘Misery’ one was 28 gigs in 1 month; so full on… When we landed with ‘Doom’ in ‘94 on the Police Bastard tour… I just remember Brian being pissed off as his cab had blown a speaker… Did so many parties since… I remember my mate Wim who took the pics; nice guy. I did look through a box of ‘E.O.M.’ flyers I kept but no info on this… I did see a flyer with a date that we never ever knew about. Think the promoter had watched Wayne’s World: book the band and they will come… Then you get slagged off; LOL! Looks like Foz wrote in the book…

Mass Centi, ‘Extinction Of Mankind’ guitarist

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 95-09-17 - (book B) SpiteVV 95-09-17 - (book B) Spite'

VV 95-09-17 - (book B) Catweazle

VV 95-09-17 - (book B) E.O.M.

VV 95-09-17 - (book B) Äpärä Kaaos KarimVV 95-09-17 - (book B) Äpärä Kaaos Lalli

VV 95-09-17 - (book B) Contramenation

additions wellcome!…

VV newsletter 95-09-15&16&17 (a)

VV newsletter 95-09-15&16&17 (b)

VV newsletter 95-09-15&16&17 (c)

VV newsletter 95-09-15&16&17 (d)

VV newsletter 95-09-15&16&17 (e)

VV newsletter 95-09-15&16&17 (f)Evolution of announcements in the Vort’n Vis newsletters

=> the actual ‘bill’:

15 sep ’95: Undone (Fra), Suffer (UK), Carol (Ger)

16 sep ’95: D.D.I. (Ita), Oi Polloi (UK), Glue (UK), Coche Bomba (Fra), Insane Youth (Bel), Carcer Molochi (Bel), Rawness (Fra), Systral (Ger)

17 sep ’95: Spite (UK), Catweazle (Nl), Extinction Of Mankind (UK), Uutuus (Fin) => Äpärä Kaaos (Fin/Tur) [don’t think Contramenation (Ger) played]

(Quite a few other bands had been announced: Fleas & Lice (Nl) played a couple of months earlier, Brawl (Ire) came over a week before, Defiance (USA) a month later; gigs for Subcaos (Por; Joao Abrantes had left the band) / Sanctus Iuda (Pol) / Dread Messiah (UK) / Meanwhile (Swe) with ‘No Security’s Jallo Lehto & Mattias Kennhed / Kirous (Fin) / Luzifers Mob (Ger) / Third World Disease (Fin) / Warcollapse (Swe) toured Germany, Poland, Czech Republic & Austria with ‘E.O.M.’ in September ‘95 / … fell through for some reason)

* reviewed in Persons Unknown (Luxembourg zine) #2 by Brego *

95-09 7th Leed a (Persons Unknown)95-09 7th Leed b (Persons Unknown)95-09 7th Leed c (Persons Unknown)95-09 7th Leed d (Persons Unknown)95-09 7th Leed e (Persons Unknown)95-09 7th Leed f (Persons Unknown)

95-09 Brego interviews Piero DDIBrego interviews Piero Majocchi of AZ distro/label (‘D.D.I.’)

There’s some photos of the distro-stalls, visiters and the run-in with the police in In and around the Vort’n Vis

95-09-15&16&17 Ilja's ticket

Some people that visited that weekend: Ilja S. (Yahoo distribution, Berlin) and his girlfriend, Gregor Kanitz & Sascha May (Evilspeak zine, Düsseldorf), Sas (‘Anarcrust’ bassist & Kbaal distribution, Rotterdam), ‘Enco’ Enzo Giurgevich (vocalist of ‘No Limits’, Koper, Slovenia), ‘Bumpy’ of ‘Sea Shepherd’ (Orléans, France), Luc Ardilouze (Scream zine, Bayonne, France), …

95-09 Gio+Mila DDI & Suffer (-)95-09 Dario DDI & Suffer‘Suffer’ meets ‘D.D.I.’ (1: Gazza, Mac, Mila, Gio, Sned / 2: Sned, Dario, Mac)

95-09-17 Oi Polloi & friends Vort'n Vis‘Oi Polloi’ & friends

Matt Finch: “Calum Mackenzie (blue top), I’m holding the bottle, next me is Colin Douglas (‘Oi Polloi’ driver). Don’t know who the guy with the dreads is.”.

Colin Douglas: “There is 4 people that I know from Slovenia there. Is that Riley beside me? The person next to Deek is Lea, and Matjaž in front of Deek. The guy behind Calum is Enzo and his partner is in front of Calum.”

‘Enco’ Enzo Giurgevich: “Matjaž, Lea ‘Piercing’, Marija and myself. On the left are two Finnish guys [Jonne & ‘Pedro’ from Äpärä Kaaos]. Matjaž [Lican] used to do the Atomic Fart distro-label [live-tapes of concerts at MKNZ in Ilirska Bistrica, Slovenia]. We traveled from Koper [Slovenia] to Ieper in my old Yugo (car). I did around 20 hours of driving in one direction…”

95-09-17x dancing king Lalli (by Wim DL)And fun was had by all… ;-) “dancing king Lalli” dixit Wim De Leersnijder

French visitors at Leed ’95; with Bumpy (white t-shirt) from ‘Sea Shepherd’ (Orléans), died in a car-accident in 1997… [the alley opposite of the V.V.] (photo by Ivan Brun)

Italian cuisine à la ‘D.D.I.’ (with on the left Deek ‘Polloi’ & Kerim Gönencer)

For some pics of the cops getting hassled here: scroll down => In and around the Vort’n Vis

96 Extinction Of Mankind + Misery tourposter96 Extinction Of Mankind + Misery tourschedule96 Misery - EOM

Apparently ‘Müsgüb’ (driver/tour-organiser Martin Fleischner; I already knew him from tours in the 80s as he organised gigs in Göppingen’s venue Remise) had to switch around the schedule a bit… From a review I dó know this gig actually took place on January 20th.

‘E.O.M.’ (“anarcho crust punk metal” from the Northwest of the U.K.) did their 3rd tour of Europe, this time with ‘Misery’, with Marvin (Varukers) playing bass because of family-commitments of Ginny. The latter had replaced Fozzy (who left the band after the ’94 tour with ‘Doom’. Their LP Baptised In Shit had been recorded in May ’95 (with Ginny on bass, Dave Foz on drums, Mass Centi on guitar & Ste Dux on vocals) and released on ‘Kleister’s Skuld Releases. They didn’t play here though because their van broke down… On 94-08-06 they also didn’t make it but they did play on 95-09-17. Nowadays ‘E.O.M.’ ( still exists (‘Doom’s Scoot plays guitar).

Dan (Profane Exstence) was back in Europe with ‘Misery’. He had been briefly in the band as bassist early on. They were an anarcho-punk/crust (with references to ‘Amebix’) band from Minneapolis. (Their 1st show was in Dec ‘88 with ‘Nausea’s Al Long on vocals.) In the band here: Todd ‘Gags’ Gaglione (bass & vocals), Gary Winger (drums), Sid Klingeman (guitar & vocals) and John Greenslit (guitar & vocals). The album Who’s The Fool…? had been relased in ’94 by Profane Existence & Skuld. These also put out an EP entitled Next Time for the tour. Their show in Slovenia (at MKNZ in Ilirska Bistrica, 96-01-19) was released on tape.

‘Carcer Molochi’, local band with V.V. shitworker Michael Maes, had played here a few times already (94-12-31, 95-03-05, 95-09-16)… According to ‘Insane Youth’s singer Steve Michael’s band didn’t play either: ‘Carcer Molochi’ cancelled. ‘Insane Youth’ were asked last minute but guitarist Tim wasn’t available…


After the record low with ‘Misery’/‘Extinction Of Mankind’, Flo [Helmchen; HeartFirst recs] and I agreed that there’s really no point in booking bands at the V.V. unless it’s emo/mosh…

Ilja S., Profane Existence Berlin; personal communication ‘96

When we went for some fries, there were 2 people of ‘Misery’ there, indulging in meat and cokes; rather disappointing… ‘E.O.M.’ didn’t show up because of car-trouble. More disappointment. When we returned home in Gent we met their guitarist who was returning to the U.K.

Steve ‘Insane Youth’ in Kurt Van Den Eynden & Anja Hermans’ zine (Wat Is Er Aan De Hand? #2)

1 out of 3 ain’t bad!? It was good we were still alive… Vort’n Vis was always the last show on the tours…

Mass Centi, ‘E.O.M.’

I remember it being very cold, same weather we get here in Minneapolis at that time of year. Some windows were broken in the upstairs so it made the whole place cold. We didn’t mind though. Also some guy was messing with everyone in ‘Misery’ and ‘E.O.M.’, Steve from ‘E.O.M.’ stood up to him and it almost came to a brawl, The show went well, being such a cold night the crowd was thin but very responsive to the music from all bands. All in all I would not have traded the experience for anything, life kinda is funny in that way, it was a fine time and I have another good memory to share with others due to playing there.

Gary Winger, ‘Misery’ drummer

I was there but don’t really remember any details of that show… We played so many in our 25 years together!

Todd Gaglione, ‘Misery’ bassist

Photographs by Wim De Leersnijder:

96-01-20 Misery (by Wim DL)96-01-20 Misery' (by Wim DL)

Pictures by Michael Maes:

96-01-20 Misery band' (by Michael M)Wim DL (R) enjoying a beer… and the band

96-01-20 Misery bass+guitars (by Michael M)Yannick ‘Pikpik’ (R) enjoying a beer… and the band

96-01-20 Misery drums (by Michael M) (-)96-01-20 Misery vox (by Michael M) (-)96-01-20 Misery bass (by Michael M) (-)

additions wellcome!…

The poster announced this one as ‘Kilts ‘n Sweatin’ Feet in Slippers’… The first being the ‘trademark’ of Celtic punx ‘Sedition’, the second referring to Sned who used to wear comfy slippers behind his drum-kit. This was, I guess, the 5th gig of ‘One By one’ here. (First time was 91-08-18…) They were almost like family, with uncle Sned bringing ‘prezzies’ all the time and Karin providing the Flemish connection… They were supposed to tour with ‘Sedition’ but that didn’t happen as Sned explains…

This was also ‘Doom’s 2nd passage (1st: 93-02-27). This time with ‘Scoot’ on bass.

The ‘Hiatus’ guys were practically always present. What can I say? An amazing set again. Don’t just believe me: look at the video…

‘E.O.M.’ original line-up consisted of Ste Dux (vocals), Mass Centi (guitar), Fozzy (bass), Dave Foz (drums). Their split ep with ‘Doom’ was released in 1994, so was the Weakness ep. They toured Europe together with ‘Doom’ here but didn’t manage to play a set…

‘Fauna’ was a young Finnish band playing melodic pop-punk with female vocals. On tour with ‘J.J.’ and (according to Peku) “very nice people with thoughts”. Peku asked me to help ‘em find some gigs (see letter)…

‘Juggling Jugulars’ (originally from Tampere, Finland), who play uptempo, melodic hardcore-punk, were already friends since I got in touch with them (and did a tour) in the early 90s. To me this is thé line-up (although I know they still play nowadays, and with due respect to the ‘new’ members): Pettri ‘Peku’ Mikkilä (guitar & vocals), ‘Jantsa’ Jani Kärkkäinen [R.I.P.] (bass & vocals), Marko Nurmi (drums), Tero Luoma (guitar).

Totaal Marginaal (Sint-Niklaas) consisted of Tim Audenaert (vocals), Wouter (guitar), Mieke (bass), Pim (drums). Can’t remember them…


It was July/August 1994 when we made a small tour with my band ‘Juggling Jugulars’ and another Finnish band named ‘Fauna’ (they played only few years and split up pretty soon afterwards). We had only 8 gigs in different countries but we managed to spend something like 2-3 weeks on the road, so it was not organized at all. Lots of sightseeing for young boys and girls. No stress :-).

‘Fauna’ have disappeared pretty much from the DIY-scene… Their line-up was: Maarit (vocals), Juhani (bass), Jukka (guitar) & Henkka (drums). The only member still active in punk-scene seems to be Henkka, who was later the drummer for ‘Endstand’ and nowadays plays in ‘Cigarette Crossfire’.

We had done our first tour with ‘Juggling Jugulars’ in Europe in 1991 and I had been in correspondence with Brob Tilt! since then, so he helped us again to get 3 gigs in Belgium; we played in Oudegem at JH Move (August 5th 1994), in Ieper at the Vort’n Vis (August 6th 1994) and in Eernegem at the B52 (August 7th 1994). [see Brob’s Tours]

The most memorable gig was definitely in Ieper, simply because the Vort’n Vis that day had a pretty international atmosphere; punks from all over Europe had arrived there to enjoy this festival. For example I met Filip [Majchrzakowski] of the label Trujaça Fala (from Poland) there for the first time and this meeting meant a lot to us afterwards; he released many of our next records in Poland and arranged lots of gigs/tours for us, etc.

Playing a gig with bands like ‘One By One’ (one of my biggest favourites at that time) or ‘Doom’ etc., was a great experience for such unknown bands that we were. It was also inspiring to see a DIY venue that was really not a regular bar or something but a punks’ own venue. We got fed and all, so we really felt welcome and we enjoyed ourselves there. Brob was extremely friendly and helpful as always. I learned a lot about the European DIY punk-scene from our correspondence and those few meetings. I can’t remember if ‘Sedition’ really played there or not but I think I would remember if they would have played. [Sned explains below…] Maybe they had cancelled for some reason?

Of course things have changed a lot since 1994; some venues stayed and some disappeared – for various reasons. DIY-scene is a network of friends, not managers or agencies – I hope it remains that way for many years to come; for me it is only true form of HC/punk – at least that’s how I understand it.

Petteri ‘Peku’ Mikkilä, ‘Juggling Jugulars’ guitarist

‘Juggling Jugulars’ & ‘Fauna’, and friends (picture kindly donated by Peku)

‘Scoot’ [bassplayer; see pic] was in ‘Doom’ in ‘94… And Tom was on vocals ‘93-’95, right…

I was there… [off course! ;-)] This was ‘One By One’s last gig! (We might have played in Newcastle the night after, but that was it.) ‘Sedition’ didn’t play; they didn’t play the whole tour. We just had to go round the gigs facing people’s disappointment at their non-appearance! They had split up. Can’t remember much more I’m afraid…

Sned, ‘One By One’ drummer

Micky & Karin, ‘One By One’ (photographed by Peku)

I have a video of a gig of ‘Doom’ with the ‘Hiatus’ guys [see pics; actually Wills of ‘Hiatus’ & Stef DL] singing… It was the tour with ‘E.O.M.’. We had played in Bremen the night before and Ste of ‘E.O.M.’ had to go to hospital to get stitches & Tom [Croft; ‘Doom’ vocalist] was travelling in their van. They got held up so Tom was late & 3 different people got up and sang ‘Doom’ songs.

Stick, ‘Doom’ drummer

‘Doom’: Bri & Scoot, with Willy (‘Hiatus’) and Stef DL (‘Corpus Christi’); pics by Wim DL

There had been a riot in Bremen the night before, Tom was in the van with ‘E.O.M.’, Ste [Dux] cut his ankle pretty bad & they waited in a hospital for hours, missing the gig so it was ‘Doom’ karaoke… ‘E.O.M.’ didn’t play & arrived very late…

Scoot, ‘Doom’ bassist

‘Doom’ – Vort’n Vis, Ieper (06/08/1994) with special guest vocalists [Willy ‘Hiatus’, Steve ‘Neuthrone’, Stef ‘Corpus Christi’, etc.] & ‘Hiatus’ – Vort’n Vis, Ieper (06/08/1994) [with a variety of scenesters – Lord Moloch, Ben ‘Hiatus’, Wim DL, Johan ‘Carcer Molochi’, Michael Maes, Karin ‘1×1’, etc. – in the crowd]

Colin Forster [Thanks for putting these on-line!]

I remember that Ales Pechman, a tall promoter from the Czech Republic, sang some song(s) with ‘Doom’ too…). There was also an incident with Filip from Trujaça Fala, when the organisers believed he was dancing too violently. But you guys were running the place to the best of your abilities. At that time everything was new for us, how the scene was working, … but I got a lot of experiences and inspiration out of it to do things in a similar way over here.

Martin Valásek, Malarie recs

This one was in the bigger venue in the back. There were many friends from everywhere! ‘Hiatus’ played as a 4-piece [Brob: Willy, Azill, Jonas & Ben] because Phil decided to stay at home. ‘Unhinged’ wasn’t on the bill but since Tom (of the ‘headlining’ ‘Doom’) didn’t turn up, we played a few songs as a 3-piece (Manu wasn’t there). Then Sned told me that I was the first on the list to sing with ‘Doom’. So I did. That was a great honour as I was a big crust fan at that time. Still like it but I’m more open to other styles nowadays…there’s good and bad things in every kind of music.

Willy ‘Hiatus’

Some extra pics of ‘Doom’ with Willy ‘Hiatus’ (kindly donated by Willy):

Some photos of ‘Hiatus’ & ‘Unhinged’ here: 94-08-06 Hiatus – Unhinged (photos)

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

Sned & Scoot celebrating the 1 in 12 (Bradford) – Vort’n Vis (Ieper) connection…

Some greetings from Suomi.

“We’re totally marginal [‘Totaal Marginaal’] from Sint-Niklaas and it was awesome here.”



additions wellcome!…