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Abstain - World Full Of Zombies

‘Abstain’ was a grindcore band from Cerritos, California. They had toured Europe already in 1997… Bryan MacNamara (guitar) & (Guy) Jay Farihi (drums & vocals). Rob M played bass on the records. They brought “growling vocals, distorted guitars and blasting drums” and had quite afew 7”s out (e.g. Defy on Profane Existence Far East, and a split with ‘Agathocles’ on Burt Beyens’ label Uxicon recs). In 2000 Paolo Petralia (SOA recs) released the World Full Of Zombies album, so they toured with his band ‘Comrades’… Because ‘Abstain’ had problems with their tour-bus (the one of ‘Comrades’) and had to pay extra train-fares, the Belgian bands donated their amends to the Americans. The Americans spent the night in the Ieper ‘Jeugdstadion’ (camping-site)…

‘Firestone’ was an H8000 metalcore band from the Kortrijk area. They had already performed on the 1996 Next Generation Festival, in the pub (97-06-27), the 1998 Vort’n Vis Hardcore Festival and also played on the Ieperfest this year. Early on the band consisted of Thomas Desimpelaere who sang, then Alexander Baert (who played drums at first), than Pieter-Jan ‘PJ’ (his first show was 97-10-04) and then Iris Walgraeve. Mathieu Storms drummed (after Alex). After him Vincent Tetaert played the drums. In the beginning Matthias Desimpelaere played guitar but later on Ward Dufraimont (also ‘Liar’) replaced him. Diederik Claes (bass) and Lennart Bossu (guitar; also ‘Liar’, later ‘Janez Detd’, ‘AmenRa’) seemed to have been the only constant members. Recordings of them playing at the Animal Truth Benefit Festival at De Warande, Kuurne (97-10-04) were released as a split-tape with ‘Spineless’. August 1996 they recorded for their Dark Fantasies demo. Sober Mind recs released an EP entitled Element in ’98 and they did an LP Aim For A New Tomorrow on Genet recs in 2000 (with Iris on vocals).

‘Lifecycle’ were locals and played here many times… From the post of their gig on 99-10-31 the reader might remember the core of the band was singer Sofie Vantomme and guitarists Karel Deweerdt & Steve Noyelle (guitar). Steve explained that they had a few switches on bass (Jurgen Degryse – Maarten Kinet – Peter Leuwers – Céline Delqueux – Jelle Dobbelaere) and drums (Jan Verhelst – Vincent Tetaert – Tim Jult).


I believe the rhythm-section here was Peter on bass and Vincent on drums…

Karel Deweerdt, ‘Lifecycle’

I played bass for ‘Lifecycle’ here. I believe I did from ‘99 to 2000 but I was only 16 then and remember very little. It was a fun time but as I grew older, I discovered another world outside HC & sXe. I quite liked ‘messing about’ at gigs, something I would still wanna do. I rarely listen to real hardcore music but solid rock is on daily!

Peter Leuwers

‘Abstain’ was just Jay and me back then. I remember we played with ‘Agathocles’ and a bunch of other bands but it’s difficult to remember specific shows/venues; after touring for like 6 weeks everything turns into a big blur… So many names/faces/venues, it’s difficult to keep track of everything. I’m stoked about the picture in the journal (that is Jay’s writing there)…

Bryan MacNamara

I didn’t play that show (someone in my family had died). Lennart was the only guitarist there. I had just joined ‘Firestone’ the month before; this would’ve been my second or third performance…

Ward Dufraimont, ‘Firestone’ guitarist

excerpt from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 2000-07-16 - (book D) Abstain etc

additions wellcome!…

Goodbye to Kiekenmarkt 7

Posted: December 18, 2015 in History
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Siempre Vort'n Vis

Since the early days the activities of the Autonoom Jongeren Centrum (AJC; autonomous youth-centre) were taking place in the pub (and the ‘barn’) located at Kiekenmarkt 7 (Ieper/Ypres). The name would later be changed into Autonoom Regionaal Trefcentrum (ART; autonomous meeting-centre). In the spring of 2001 (April/May) the non-profit organisation was forced to move because the brewery that they rented the pub from, didn’t wanna continue the lease.

The (concert-)history we’re trying to give here is from the early beginnings to the moment of this move. As Jan Claus, co-founder, puts it: it spans the period of right before the fall of the Berlin Wall (89-11-09; the Iron Curtain was opened 89-05-02 in Hungary) until a bit before 9-11 (which was in 2001)… The foundation of the association was 89-05-21 and a month before that, the opening of the pub.

VV verhuis 2001the ‘second’ generation saying goodbye to Kiekenmarkt 7

They moved to a new location (which they bought June 2003) at Sint-Jacobsstraat 3, a small kilometre away. That building was in a poor condition so they decided to tear it down and rebuild it. There’s a main building and a multi-functional (concert-) venue (and rehearsal-space) in the back. They got some subsidy from the Flemish government but a lot of the costs of the reconstruction (which the collaborators are doing themselves) is payed for by donations and benefits. During this, activities were taking place in a TAZ (Temporary Autonomous Zone) @ Diksmuidseweg 59, where they’d moved to December 2012.


from the V.V. website at the time:



Yper, 1 Mei 2001

Yes, this time for real: we will move to another place. Normally we had to leave already the old building on 31 August 2000. But your public support with petitions and letters, the decreasing prices of buildings in Ieper after the L&H [Lernout & Hauspie] -debacle, the positive reactions of local authorities on our future plans for an autonomous regional meetingcentre, and the efforts of several VV-cooperators (thanx alot to all of them with special thanx to Nutje) made we’ve got already 2 times a delay of our departure. It gave us more time for negotiations for a final solution for our housing problem. We’ve even got the opportunity to buy the old building, but the price was too high for us and in the meanwhile we’ve found a better alternative. Now it’s really time to say goodbye to the good old building where we’ve spended nearly 12 years of our life. We will move from the Kiekenmarkt 7 to the Sint-Jacobsstraat 3 where several VV-cooperators are now busy to fix the new pub (thanx alot to all of them with special thanx to Steph Q, Noten and Nathalie M).

In April/May 1989 we were looking for a building for our new independent meeting center. We wanted a freeplace for progressive people in our then very conservative Westhoek region. We founded our organization on 21 May 1989 and opened our pub on 23 June 1989. So, the “Vort’n Vis” is the oldest pub of the pub square in this neighborhood. Our first gig ever in this building was on 9 July 1989 with Dreft, Silly Old Fart and Pietje Roze Konin en de 7 Gesprietjes. A bit later we also declared the Republyk Vort’n Vis independent from Belgium on 1 April 1990. The last gig in our old building will be on 11 May 2001 with Thee Plague Of Gentlemen, Sad Origin, 5 Day Getaway, The Deal and Kingpin. Nice to know: some of the same people who played 12 years ago too at the first gig in this building are playing now in some of the last bands who will play there. The day after, on 12 May 2001, we will move with a procession from the old to the new building. We will move officially our bar, stage, public seat, music instruments, etc. Maybe there will be also some musical acts. We ask you to help moving us these things and to enjoy the procession. When reached the new building we will start the first night and the first gig in our new building with Hypnos69.

We look back with mixed feelings to the old building where we spended nearly 12 years of our life.

Sometimes we had very bad times there. We saw lots of black snow. We had problems with authorities (2 weeks locked “because of noise”, razzias, arbitrary penalties, …) and with the landlord. We had financial problems and put our last money in it while we were robbed from people we’ve trusted. We had long winter-times without heating which made it was colder inside than outside. We had lots of stupid quarrels, conflicts and insinuations. There was intolerance and narrowmindness. Sometimes people expected too much from us, more than we ever could give. And we ourselves made lots of faults too because of lack of experience and sometimes too much pressure. Most tragic was an accident on our Leed Vistival in September 1997 when somebody with a heart-disease fell dead from stage.
But we had our good times too there. We had great gigs with great bands and especially great people. We’ve met lots of people from far countries that we never shouldn’t have met without “De Vort’n Vis”. And we made friendships for life with lots of them. The most mornings after the gigs were great. Then lots of visitors had a “morning after headache” and it was quiet enough for a talk with the people who were left. It learned us alot. And we had lots of fun too. With all those hundreds or even thousands of bands who played there during these 12 years. Or with collapsing stages and walls during an enthusiast gig while hundreds of people were screaming out their lungs with as much enthusiasm. Or with snoring visitors with ‘stinky cheese’ feet who crashed out after a gig. Or with a smoke show that filled the whole building with smoke. Everybody had to go outside and even the band had to stop playing because of too much smoke. And passerbys thought that the Vort’n Vis was on fire. :-)

Goodbye, good ol’ building! Thanx alot for all the hospitality, joy, fun and warmth you gave us during these 12 years. And thanx alot too for all the consolation you gave us when we were sad. Lots of local bands were born inside your musical womb. We will miss you. We’re so sad that we have to leave you ‘cos we will leave a part of our soul to this place. We will never forget you. There will be always a place in our heart for you. But now we have to go. We have a new future at another place. Although it’s not perfect too it’s a better alternative for us that gives us more possibilities for a new future. At least we’re not turned into the street but found another and better roof above our heads. Our struggle wasn’t senseless.

We also thanx our old neighbors for the trust and understanding they gave us. And we thanx our new neighbors to give us an honest opportunity. Old and new neighbors, be welcome at our “We’re Moving”-festival during the weekend of our moving! We will move both in the way of “moving to a new place” as in the way of “dancing the whole night”. Be there at this historic moment in the history of the Vort’n Vis!

Jan ‘Doomy’ C


Read more on the Vort’n Vis today!

some images (courtesy of Steve Noyelle) of the ‘rehousing-procession’:

VV verhuis 2001 (Steph)VV verhuis 2001 (couch)VV verhuis 2001 (sign)

We need all possible help from anyone who was involved to complete the history – please get in touch!

Joost Dierick (The Pits / Bang Zoom Noise productions) wrote me ‘Toespieze’ played at the Vort’n Vis on 90-03-10 but the gig-review in Pyrobolum #3 tells another story…

90-02-24 (Pyrobolum #3)

‘Scraps’ had cancelled for 89-09-16 but they made up for that here. It was the start of a whole series of gigs. Later that year they would also play for Smurfpunx (90-10-06). The members at that time were David Dutriaux (vocals) Tomoy (bass), Xavier (drums) and Raphael Dutriaux (guitar). They had abandonned their rather nihilist 80s drunk-punk image and became a more politically aware ans positive combo. That year the album Wrapped Up In This Society was released on Be Yourself recs (Carl Levecke & Ghilain Vermeersch). They came back to the V.V. later that year (90-09-15) and a few times more…

I’d seen ‘Ear Damage’ quite a few times already. Bassist Marc (Verbeeck) and drummer ‘Bie’ (Robin Puttemans) were friends since the ‘Zyklome-A’ days and I knew guitarist Dirk (Ceustermans) from gigs in Leuven and from D.R.O.L. zine. They’d played 3 times for Smurfpunx already too… (86-09-07, 87-06-27 & 89-02-25). This gig here was about a year after their second LP (The Hangover Of Loneliness) was finished. Summer of ’89 they had done a small tour in the Basque Country (with ‘Heibel’) and the summer after this gig they travelled to Poland for a bunch of shows (together with the Reynders brothers’ new band ‘Triptych’). They played another Vort’n Vis show in Poperinge (90-04-08) and as far as I know their last Belgian gig ever was in Leuven, 90-07-11.

‘Toespieze’ from the are around Bruges started in May ’87. When the original drummer left Steve ‘Sling’ Slingeneyer of ‘Chronic Disease’ joined; the others were ‘Meyer’ Peter Demeyer (guitar, also ‘Chronic Disease’), Jeroen ‘Jerre’ Callewaert (vocals and guitar) & Rik De Jaegher (bass). ‘Leffe’ describes their music as “rock”. There was a demo with 5 songs by them and 18 songs by ‘Chronic Disease’.

90-02-24 Toespieze art

No idea anymore who or what ‘Just Us’ was…


‘Roxy’ sang for a while when ‘Jerre’ got tired of that in the end.

Rik De Jaegher, ‘Toespieze’

Was ‘Just Us’ a band??? Definitely not from Bruges… ‘Toespieze’ was also not really a punk-band. I was at their first gig in the theatre-room of a school in Bruges in 1987. I hung out with ‘Roxy’ (vocals) well into the 90s.

Koen ‘Siesele’ Lammens

additions wellcome!…