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2nd day of the 1st Ieperfest

(1st day: 92-09-05 Ironside – Strong Event – Blindfold – Shortsight – No More – Feeding The Fire – Spirit Of Youth)

The best ‘N.O.F.’ line-up here: Jaak De Cock (drums; ex ‘C.P.D. & ‘Disorder’), David Dutriaux (vocals; also ‘Scraps’), Jeroen Lauwers (bass) and Ed(ward) Verhaeghe (guitar; ex ‘Midnight Man’ & ‘Rise Above’). Their album Strike The Match was out for a while. Recordings for the Burn Again double-7” were ongoing. Same for the Non Smokers 7”… Actually Jaak played his last show with ‘Nations On Fire’ in Brugge, October 17th 1992 (a benefit for G.A.I.A.). He was a fervent promoter of veganism (the Belgian Vegan Society and the likes) and would start a vegan/healthfood shop in his hometown Hamme…

92-09-06 NOF (VV pic from Ras l'Bol)‘Nations On Fire’ (pic from Ludovic Hache’s zine Ras l’Bol)

‘Nations On Fire’ (Jeroen – Jaak – David – Ward); photo by Jean-Paul Frijns

‘Abolition’ (at the very beginning named ‘Violent Arrest’) played power-trash from Ludwigshafen and were: Bernd ‘Mr Intolerance’ Bohrmann (vocals; used to do Confrontation zine), Corey ‘The Cat’ Von Villiez (bass), Jens ‘Violent’ Wagner (guitar) and Andreas ‘Huy’ Huyhammer (drums). At that time they had the Jesus Was A Fuckin’ Dick 7” out (a co-release on Bernd & Corey’s Equality recs and Jens’ Homemade recs).

Corey was a pen-pal. We shared a clinical chemistry training and the fact that we were both rather critical towards consumerist attitudes in the HardCore scene. I admired her political stance and intelligent writing. She obtained a PhD in Political Science & Philosophy eventually…

The LP Complaceny (with Miguel Andrade on 2nd guitar) was recorded end ’93 and got out in 1994… Thesir raging hardcore fitted well with Bernd’s anger and critical attitude. The lyrics were very political (and elaborated into pamphlets that came with their releases). If you wanna know how they sounded, have a look here…: Abolition live @ Nagold (Germany) 1992.

Corey and Bernd formed ‘Stack’, Jens & Huy went on to play with ‘Nothing Remains’ (their bassist Frank Henkelmann actually ran Homemade recs together with Jens) and we’ld see Miguel back with ‘Age’ & ‘Rusty James’…

‘Inner Circle’, from Germany would play here again on 92-10-10. ‘Inner Circle’ They were to become ‘Spawn’ later…

Mike Briggs of ‘Agent 86’ contacted me to help find some gigs for his band ‘Agent 86’ (their tour was mainly arranged by their French label New Wave recs). I quite liked their music, political lyrics and DIY attitude…so I tried to help where I could. Their tour was a bit messy so I believe they played where/when it was possible and I think they ended up at the Vort’n Vis a few times (definitely Oct 4th). On the tour-poster it’s indicated this day they were due in Ieper (they’re also mentioned in concert-review in Holy Hardcore #2 below)…

92 Agent 86 tour

‘Agent 86’ played punk-rock, sometimes flavoured with a bit of reggae, and had an LP out that year called Just Say No. The line-up on that record was bassist Michelle Orgill, drummers Billy Ropple & Wes Hambright, and Mike Briggs (guitar & vocals). The drummer on the tour was Robert Perry. Before that they’d already done a whole bunch of 7”s, e.g. Vietnam Generation (also on New Wave recs).

Kjell E. Moberg, the guitarist of the Norwegian band ‘Punishment Park’ (a band from Bergen that played punk-rock, here with a female vocalist, Anja) had asked my help before but for some reason they couldn’t convince me that they had the true D.I.Y. punk spirit so I said no. They eventually ended up touring with ‘Agent 86’ and did turn up to play here… In my review of their CD for Tilt! #7 I wrote “Melodic uptempo punkrock with a touch of reggae sometimes. Good but nothing too special…”


‘S.O.T.W.’ was called ‘Positive Youth’ at first and I did the vocals then. I think we might’ve played with ‘Sedition’ at one time. A while later I took up second guitar and Jan (brother of Maarten Beckers who was the drummer in the band) started singing. Those 2 later founded bands such as ‘Kindred’ and ‘Enemy Of The Sun’. ‘Positive Youth’ / ‘Strength Of The Will’ were from the Tongeren area (except for myself [from Antwerp]). They were just guys who were in their last year of secondary school, who liked the ‘Exhaustless Revolt’ [Filip’s 1st band; see 90-10-06, 91-05-03 & 91-11-23] tapes, heard that we’d stopped and called me one day asking to sing for them. :-) Crazy, actually… I didn’t know any of them but took the train tot the other side of Belgium (which I already had gotten used to, travelling to HC concerts; even if we had to play ourselves we went by train) and we started a band. Can’t remember very well how long it lasted, I estimate a year or two… Then the whole thing faded out: things weren’t that easy because of the distance, we rehearsed very little… A bit later ‘Kindred’ started. ‘S.O.T.W.’ played a few times at the V.V., on one occasion with ‘Wheel Of Progress’, a precursor of ‘Congress’, I think.

At a certain time-point there was a song on a GoodLife promo by ‘Ill Balance’, a band that I played in somewhere in the 90s. That was also the period that I (and my grilfriend at that time) worked for GL for 6 months… I played also in another band called ‘Braveyard’ (a mix of hardcore/metal with hiphop/rap) but we didn’t release anything officially. Nowadays [2013] I play in a band called ‘Barricade’. We recorded some tracks in a professional studio. Musically it sounds like death-metal but with hardcore riffs but the themes are more socio-critical.

Filip Staes (ex ‘Exhaustless Revolt’)

Ieperfest [It wasn’t called like that yet back then…] September 1992. ‘Strength Of The Will’ opened in the pub. 3 and a half hours on the train (Tongeren – Ieper), saw 2 bands and had to leave early to get home… Didn’t get to see ‘Nations On Fire’ that time.

Koen Stassen

I can remember that I took some photos of this two day-festival we played… I also have a T-shirt that lists all the bands. I recall meeting a lot of nice and cool people there. And I have recollections of almost having an accident on the way home because I was soooo tired driving…

Jens Wagner, ‘Abolition’ guitarist

92-09 T-shirt

We played a ‘Negative Approach’ cover and the singer of ‘Voorhees’ (Ian Leck) went nuts…

Bernd Bohrmann, vocalist for ‘Abolition’

‘InnerXCircle’ was Patrick Uhlemann on second guitar and myself on bass. The guy that replaced me later was Dirk Zeiser [later ‘Spawn’].

Holger Andt

I remember this show really well. ‘Inner Circle’ played an awesome set…It was still with Mike Krajewski. When they changed the name to ‘Spawn’, Chris took over the mic and became their singer. Mike is still into hardcore mostly Power Violence.

Peter Hoeren, Crucial Response recs

I think we played twice at the V.V. and might have been scheduled to play that third time with ‘Jawbreaker’ (we did play with them in Lyon on the same tour)…but it was one of several shows I think that fell through… The Vort’n Vis was a favourite just because it was so wellcoming, and fun. Looking over the show-list on your site was amazing; we played with so many bands in that time-period (since we were there that 2nd time for over 4 months)…

We played a pretty grunge-y set, though I was happy with it – there were some inter-band squabbles. I have a note that the show was put on by a guy named Edward, though we also met Bruno that night, and scheduled the gig for October. Sadly don’t remember much else about the actual show.

I stay in contact with a lot of my old punk-rock pals, especially Dario Adamic, who has become a cherished friend, which is pretty amazing given all the drama at the time. [Brob: For history’s sake: Dario Adamic (Zips & Chains zine, Rome) had a lot of stories to tell about touring with ‘Agent 86’: according to him they were not DIY, dishonest, sexist, etc. He wrote letters to Maximum Rock’n’Roll about that…]

Michelle Orgill, ‘Agent 86’ bassist

We played in September 1992, I think it was a small festival. We just turned up after a messed up week in Germany as far as I can remember. We came there with ‘Agent 86’ (we were touring together that fall) and we got to play a few songs each. Most likely it was September 6th since we started the tour late in August that year.

Kjell E. Moberg, ‘Punishment Park’

I want to apologize for letting ‘Punishment Park’ infiltrate in the underground scene. They have nothing to do with the ideas and values of the squats. They buy Shell gas, eat at McDonalds and want to be on MTV.

Mike Briggs, personal communication 1993

My wife, our bass-player at that time, Michelle Orgill and I moved back to the West Coast (Eugene, Oregon) as soon as we got home from the 1992 tour. ‘Agent 86’ is still a thriving entity (, approaching 30 years. We play mostly in Las Vegas but did our first tour in 17 years in March 2010 – L.A. to Seattle and back. My current wife, Jill, is the bass-player and we have 5 drummers that all know our set that we use. I book, run the door and do sound for shows on Friday-nights at a local bar (Boomers).

Mike Briggs, ‘Agent 86’ guitarist

I played for ‘Agent 86’ for a few years. I joined in ‘91 after the last drummer quit. My roommate was friends with them and hooked us up. I am still in contact with them. I only played on the Riot Girl EP and there is a live record out there somewhere from a show we did in Serbia.

Robert Perry, ‘Agent 86’ drummer

92-09-05&06 gig-review in HolyHardcore #2 (c)review (by Tineke Hoet) in Tom De Pauw’s zine HolyHardcore #2

92-09 Hardcore 92 review''review in Wim Vandekerckhove’s zine Reminder #2

additions wellcome!…

1st day of the 1st Ieperfest

(2nd day: 92-09-06 Abolition – Nations On Fire – Strength Of The Will – Inner Circle – Agent 86 – Punishment Park)

‘Ironside’ were a vegan sXe metalcore outfit from Bradford. Nick Royles (drums; ex ‘Sore Throat’ & ‘No Way Out’ 90-08-25) was in the band; along with Andrew Wright (guitar; later in ‘Unborn’ & ‘Voorhees’; R.I.P.), Doug(las) Dalziel (bass), Tom Chapman (guitar; later in ‘Kito’, ‘Baby Harp Seal’, etc.) and Richard ‘Rich’ Armitage (vocals; later in ‘Voorhees’). They had just recorded for the Neutered Innocence tape that Nick released on his label, Sure Hand recs, and they were about to put out the Fragments Of The Last Judgement 7” (on Ian Simpson/ Helene Keller’s Subjugation recs; 1993). Rich Armitage (somewhere on the internet) wrote: “We played in Belgium in ‘92 and blew away all the ‘88 straight-edge kids there, which laid the foundation for the H8000 thing. No one was doing slow, chugging metal with deep vocals and no recognizable straight-edge lyrics at the time, except ‘Ironside’.”…

92-09-05 Ironside' (by Subjugation) 92-09-05 Ironside'' (by Subjugation)92-09-05 Ironside (by Subjugation)‘Ironside’ photos by Helene Keller (Subjugation recs)

Not really sure but I think ‘Strong Event’ (from Mulheim in the Ruhrpott area) was the band of drummer René Natzel (who was also in ‘Inner Circle’ and ‘Feeding The Fire’ – see 92-10-10 – and did Common Goal zine) before he started ‘Spawn’…

I think this was the 1st time ‘Shortsight’ performed with Saskia singing. Can ‘t recall if guitarist Françoise ‘Hazel’ Lepers was in the band then; the rest was David ‘Mong’ Dumont (guitar), Björn Lescouhier (drums) & Kurt Deprez (bass). There was an incident with smokers when they played… (Dutch-speaking people can read about it on the excerpt from Edward’s zine Dorst #1, below)

92-09-05 Shortsight (Dorst #1)92-09-05 Shortsight Saskia (Dorst cover)Saskia ‘Shortsight’ (on the cover of Dorst #1)

‘Shortsight’ (photo by Christophe Mora)

‘Blindfold’ had just come back from a tour with ‘Onward’ (see 92-08-09)… Their Sober Mind Meditation 7” was recorded right after this fest and was to be released on Warehouse recs (that Edward Verhaeghe did together with Jeroen Lauwers). The band had a steady line-up with Jan Maelfait on bass (meaning he had to perform twice that day)…

‘Blindfold’, photos by Jean-Paul Frijns

With ‘Spirit Of Youth’ playing aswell, there was a total of 4 (more or less) local SxE bands… The month after this, they recorded the 7” The Abyss (released by Crucial Response recs). The line-up (see also 92-08-09) that day was: Jan Maelfait (vocals), Dominiek Denolf (guitar), Frederik Denolf (drums) and Ignace Demeyer (bass).

‘Spirit Of Youth’ – Frederik & Ignace

‘No More’ had already played here (92-05-24). They were from Luxembourg (the country, not the Belgian province). A political HC band consisting of Claude ‘Pattex’ Werer (guitar), Fränz Laureys (bass), Steve ‘Diff’ Differding (vocals) & Mike ‘Schof’ (93) (drums). See also 93-03-28.

‘Feeding The Fire’: Not the first time, nor the last time they were here: 91-12-21, 92-04-18, 92-10-10, 93-05-22, 94-08-21 & 96-05-12. Emphasizing the strong connection between some people… Léon Kleikers (guitarist of ‘No Sense’) stood in on drums here. He also did that for the ‘F.T.F.’/’Man Lifting Banner’ tour…


‘Strong Event’ were: Frank Fürtjes (vocals), Corinna Pliska (guitar), Uwe Käufer (guitar), René Natzel (drums) and myself (bass). ‘InnerXCircle’ (later ‘Spawn’) started as an project of this band.

Holger Andt

That day I met most of the Bradford guys, like Nick [Royles] and Tom [Chapman], etc. for the first time. ‘Ironside’ were hard as fuck. Their singer looked like a psycho. Turned out to be a real nice guy. They made quite an impression. Heyday of the first generation H8000 scene.

Rob Franssen, ‘Feeding The Fire’ singer

I visited again [92-07-25 & 92-08-09] for the Ieperfest. (Wasn’t that the very first time that fest took place…?) At least for the Saturday: I had school on Monday and couldn’t stay for the Sunday. The feeling on the first day of school after that summer was incredible. I actually just started in fall 1992 with my English lessons and picked up so fast, but not because of the teacher or the lessons but because of what I’d learned reading in lyrics and fanzines, and writing letters. Brob and me kept a somewhat regular correspondence since then until the summer of 1995. We met again for the fest in the summer of 1996, but the atmosphere at the fest was different and I was aswell; that was my last visit to the V.V. I visited the place (which was a pub) in early spring 2008 and early summer 2009 during field-trips with students of the University of Essen & the University of Siegen, respectively. I never saw the new V.V.

Jörg Jacoby, visitor from Saarbrücken

A couple of quick facts… ‘Ironside’ were never explicitly “vegan straight-edge” and certainly not metalcore. ‘Ironside’ was a straight-edge band. I really enjoyed that trip to Ieper, as I knew I was gonna be living in Lille in France in the near future. I was really keen on the whole Euro music scene and so for me it was great to meet people from ‘Nations On Fire’, ‘Spirit Of Youth’, ‘Feeding The Fire’, Jean-Paul [Frijns] from Value of Strength zine, some of the Lille people, etc. The scene was so much bigger than in the UK it seemed although in the UK the straight-edge scene was much smaller and less insular. We had a great time, going to the swimming-pool, watching a lot of bands that weekend…

In 1992 I lived in Lille, France for one year as part of my studies. I spent a lot of time travelling to Belgium, staying with the ‘Spirit Of Youth’ guys, hanging out with Ed, Bruno, Jeroen, UJ, Hans, etc. Also some of the Lille/ Roubaix/ Mouscron guys like Pierre ‘Six Feet Over’, etc.

As I commented [see link on top] I am sure there were plenty of people there whose intentions were misguided – whether it was just to make as much money, or young kids who were full on straight-edge vegan one weekend and turned back to a conservative lifestyle the next, and obviously didn’t look beyond the surface of what was going on…

Tom Chapman, ‘Ironside’ guitarist

>> With my twenty-first birthday looming in September 1992, I was where I always had been: restless and skint, devoid of potential fellow voyagers and lacking the guts and information to go it alone. But then there was Belgium – how hard could it be to travel there, to go to the first hardcore festival in Ieper? Was I just going to give in to my mates who didn’t want to go to it, or in fact go anywhere beyond their crap summer-jobs. So Belgium wasn’t Bolivia but it was a start, and it was a music festival and how cool would it be that I had been while other guys hung about the UK that summer? So I bit the bullet and got in touch with a guy called Jase [‘Step One’ Fox] from Manchester who was going too and together we headed over to Belgium. He had sorted staying with friends in Ieper so I managed to blag myself on to that ticket and got to stay with some lovely people in Belgium who were part of the beating heart of the hardcore scene there.

It is difficult to convey now how boundary-breaking it felt to travel abroad on my own – well at least emotionally on my own, not knowing my travelling companion very well. It all seems a bit silly now what with books and internet resources so readily available, but at the time I didn’t know that things like the Lonely Planet guides existed, which would tell how you how to get to a place and find somewhere cheap to stay. As far as I was concerned you had to buy a ticket for somewhere and hope for the best that you could figure it all out when you got there in your best pigeon version of the local language. All that to me – and to others where I came from – seemed a bit scary in the early nineties. I guess some of us just weren’t destined to be the world’s greatest (budget) explorers! At the time of my little jaunt to Belgium, it was quite a talking-point for the neighbours back home that I had just swanned off to the ‘continent’ on my own when most of us didn’t go much further than Bournemouth or if we did, it was just a touch of Spain on a package!

The Ieperfest was fab. The sun shone, there were loads of new people, bands, distros from right across Europe and of course many records to absorb and vegan food to devour – spaghetti I recall. There we go again, I can remember what I ate nineteen years ago but I’ll struggle to remember which bands played. ‘Shortsight’, ‘Feeding the Fire’, ‘Blindfold’, ‘Ironside’, ‘Spirit Of Youth’, that’s the best I can do! I don’t know if it was in part a consequence of the sun shining, compared to a dour and sour Yorkshire, and there being lots of people from around Europe having lots of super friendly conversations, but the whole event and the community gathered there seemed to simply ooze positivity.

Maybe it was just because it was all new to me but things seemed definitely different to back in the UK. For one thing – and this really stood out for me – there was a mini manifesto on the gig-flyer [perhaps this: Fast music doesn’t mean violent dancing] about violence and violent dancing not being tolerated, and this was something that the guys there really held fast on. I had never been to a gig like this where was so much good natured dancing going on, where everyone felt safe and looked out for with zero posturing. A couple of hundred people were crammed into the café, watching the bands and there was lots of fun stage-diving going on and people hoisting others into the air to surf the crowd. Secondly, the pleasure and openness with which people met each other for the first time, and the thirst for conversation, information-sharing and political discourse. It felt like everyone was bursting with ideas and political perspectives they wanted to share. I met some really brilliant people there, from which I took much inspiration home with me. Also just as exciting was the recurring references by the bands to the tediousness of sexism in life but also closer to home in the scene. But best of all was seeing some of the coolest girls rock out in the bands, and even better was to come in that I would eventually have the privilege of releasing some of their work on the next Subjugation record.

But back to 1992. It was a bit scary being there on my own, a kind of strange British waif and stray amongst large groups of friends who rubbed along with an easy and gentle bonhomie. I am not very good at being the kind of creature who finds it easy to impose themselves upon someone and their circle of friends. I really didn’t know Jase, who I travelled over with, very well and was keen not to be a social burden to him. At this time I didn’t really know the guys from ‘Ironside’ and they always looked a bit scary to me so I was way too shy to barge my way into their gang and they didn’t exactly rush my way either to save me from being the lonesome British girl there! So I just had to get on with it, trying to look nonchalantly cool and OK about being totally on my own, reading zines and killing loads of time between bands while being completely out of my social depth!!

Zines being sold at gigs…to me that was one of the best things ever and probably not for the reasons you think. They saved my social dignity on many occasions! In the early days there weren’t too many girls at gigs and I think most of us felt pretty awkward being a minority – an alien being on the landscape, often finding ourselves behaving like wall-flowers on the periphery of the gathering – even if this was contrary to our ‘normal’ personalities. We often failed to reach out to each other while an easy bonhomie flourished between the boys, powered it seemed to me by talk of record-collecting and being in bands! The boys didn’t seem to want to engage with us very much at gigs. On a lot of occasions the most I could get out of them was a “Hello, how are you…”, without much enthusiasm for any further follow-up and inclusion! My favourite scenario was when I used to go up to a group of guys who weren’t complete strangers to me and say the usual “Hello, how’s it going?…” hoping to join in and hang out and they would all go quiet and look awkward… I can laugh about it now but at the time it was terrible. It was like always being the new kid at school that people are polite to but you can’t be arsed to try with and let into your gang! It meant that there was often a lot of time to be killed on your own and so you needed strategies to help you stop you looking like a total pariah. This is where zines came in and saved me! So three cheers for zine-writers – the unsung heroes and heroines of the socially excluded at gigs!! On several occasions over the years I have tried to fathom why I wasn’t allowed to hang out with the same ease as those guys who were new to our local scene or visiting. The answers generally fell into two categories. Firstly I was someone’s girlfriend and that made people feel weird about approaching and including me. The second category is that they were frightened of me. This was nicely summed up some years ago by one member of ‘Bob Tilton’, confessing that he only had the guts to speak to me freely when he was drunk. There is a possible third category – that is I am tedious, but my friends promise me that I am not and just maybe they are right, as they have at least stuck with me for a decade or two.

Once again, back to 1992….so I probably did a lot of zine-reading at the Ieper festival but I could couldn’t hide away forever. I now ran a record-label and responsibilities to face up to, like shifting the 500 ‘Strength Alone’ records sat in Ian’s house in Darlington and more immediately the ones I had with me. I had to be brave and bold, and try and trade or sell them to the distros at the festival. I dread to think what they thought of this timid little thing trying to thrust my meagre offering on them. I also remember sitting there on my own with my little box of records, next to the big distros trying to sell them… Ah bless me. I totally thought the guys from ‘Ironside’ must be so laughing at me. I felt very small but nothing ventured nothing gained…for me the fight back against the under-valued and minority-status of women in hardcore-punk had to begin with trying to sell 50 ‘Strength Alone’ 7”s! And you know what…I did it, I got rid of them and came back with contacts for the major distributors in Europe. If first base is pressing a record, then second base is working with European distributors and I was on my way.

The Ieper festival was an opportunity to see ‘Shortsight’ and ‘Feeding the Fire’ play, both of which had female members in the band – Saskia, the vocalist in ‘Shortsight’ and Ilona, the bass-player [guitar actually] in ‘Feeding the Fire’. They seemed like warrior-queens, leaders of a tribe that were out numbered twenty to one, shouting “bring it fucking on”. I was in awe, not only of them but the friends they had that had the where with all to help them take their place centre stage. Being in Ieper was also an opportunity to meet Hazel, who was way ahead of the rest of us in breaking the mould, having played bass in the Belgian straight-edge band ‘Nations On Fire’. I also met up with a really cool woman over from Canada called Mel [Melanie Gauthier, from Toronto] who wrote a straight-edge fanzine [Seen Not Heard]. It was pretty exciting to be, for the first time, around other women who were trying to make their presence felt in the straight-edge/hardcore scene and start to share experiences and find common cause. It is very liberating to come to the realisation that what you considered to be personal deficiencies are in fact systemic: you are not totally crap, the environment you are in skews your chances significantly in favour of being perceived as crap! The rush of oxygen to the brain when you finally work this out is quite something. It doesn’t make walking up to a group of guys to try and trade records any less daunting but at least you haven’t beat your self up too much before you try!!

With Jase I was staying at Hans’ house, who was the guitarist in ‘Blindfold’ and ran P.M.A. recs. For those of you that like your band-member facts, he eventually went on to be in ‘Liar’. Also staying over at the house was the ‘Feeding the Fire’ crew (Rob the singer went on to be in ‘Born From Pain’). I remember hanging out with them after the night ‘Ironside’ had played the festival, laughing at the impressions we were all doing of Arm’s, (the singer of ‘Ironside’), slightly scary stage-persona.

I was also probably trying to impress them with my world-domination plans for Subjugation, which frankly boiled down to trying to put together an Animal Rights benefit compilation 7”. We had been in touch with various bands over the summer and it was pretty much coming together. Signed up were ‘Feeding the Fire’ from Holland, ‘Shortsight’ from Belgium and ‘Struggle’ from San Diego, who had just released the most amazing 7” on Ebullition recs, and a track on the compilation 12” Give Me Back which was a benefit for Women’s support-groups. To get them on board was totally brilliant. Again for those of you who like band-member facts, ‘Struggle’ included Justin Pearson who went on to be in ‘Swing Kids’ and ‘The Locust’. […]

Feeling buoyed up and a bit giddy by what I achieved at the Ieperfest I made my way back to the UK. ‘Ironside’ were on the same ferry crossing as me. I said “Hello” without sounding too squeaky and secretly hoped that they would kind of indicate that it was cool for me to hang out with them for the four hour crossing, but sadly they didn’t, so I did my best impression of cool independence and sauntered off to get coffee, hiding my disappointment that I wasn’t getting the chance to hang out with the über-cool Nick Royles, the drummer of ‘Ironside’. Ian Leck (the singer of ‘Steadfast’/’Voorhees’) did find me later in the café and joined me for some chit-chat, which was a welcomed charitable act that I have clearly remembered for the last twenty years! The initial tepid relations between myself and Bradford boys was later in part explained by the unearthing of a snake in our midst’s! Someone was peddling tales and creating general mistrust been the Leeds and Bradford posses. In the following months the perpetrator was unmasked and confronted and the outcome of this was to be some cool collaborations between us all on gigs and record releases, general good times and an enduring friendship between Nick and I. It is shame that the petty power-games of this one individual prevented the cool stuff happening all the sooner, but I guess such games are all part of the rich pageant that is human relationships… <<

Helene Keller, Subjugation recs (

92-09-05 Helene, Hazel and Saskia outside the V.V.the sisterhood (Helene, Hazel & Saskia)

92-09-05&06 gig-review in HolyHardcore #2 (a)92-09-05&06 gig-review in HolyHardcore #2 (b)review in Tom De Pauw’s zine HolyHardcore #2

92-09 Hardcore 92 review (-)review in Wim Vandekerckhove’s zine Reminder #2

additions wellcome!…

96-07-07 Anomie - Marker - Bakunin's Children

‘Bakunin’s Children’ were Steve Differding (guitar; also in various other bands from Luxemburg), Thierry Thill (drums; ex ‘Because’ & ‘D’Rotzbouwen’), Frank Villanueva (bass; later ‘Petrograd’), Marek (vocals) and Ronnie ‘Riot’ (vocals; also ‘D’Rotzbouwen’; Skunk recs). The music was raw, fast HC. They did the Amerikkka Loves Us split-7” (with ‘No More’) ‎on Ronnie’s label Skunk recs and also had a track on the benefit compilation Amore & Anarchia (on the same label).

‘Tuomiopäivän Lapset’ (‘doomsday children’) from Tornio were (at that time) Sanna Ylimäinen (vocals; but not on this tour), Mikko Hietanen (guitar), Kake (bass) and Altse (drums; Ari ‘Altse’ Alatalo, graphic artist: They did a whole bunch of 7”s, one of which was a split with ‘Disrupt’ on Ecocentric recs. Right after this tour they recorded the EP Saatanan Murhaajat (on the Austrian label Fallen recs) with Weke as vocalist. Their music was fast and pissed scandi-thrash: “dis-core with angry shouting vocals singing in Finish, D-beat feeling and bashing drums”. Two of them (Sanna & Mikko) have a new band called ‘Bad Jesus Experience’.

96-07-07 Tuomiopaïvan Lapset (by Wim DL)‘Tuomiopaïvän Lapset’ (photographed by by Wim De Leersnijder)

‘Substandard’ (a band from Nottingham playing fast and furious HC) were Andrew ‘Andy’ Hennessey (guitar/vocals), Jason Wilson (drums; later replaced by Keith), Jules Lowery (vocals), Pat O’Keefe (guitar) and Sean Oxborough (bass later replaced by ‘Goz’). Eddie Greenaway & ‘Pug’ (‘Slum Gang’ drummer) also stood in for ‘Substandard’ but not on this one… They did 4 7”s: a split with Leicester band ‘Nerves’ ‎(in ’94 on Inflammable Material – the label created by ‘Substandard’s singer Jules and Mike Clarke from ‘Decadent Few’), and another 2 with ‘Pink Flamingos’ entitled Germania Meets Britannica (recorded Dec ’96) and one with ‘Detestation’ – USA Meets UK – (both on Wicked Witch recs, ’97). Then Consuming Need… …Consuming Greed (Inflammable Material, ’99). Jules distributed their stuff through his distro (Missing The Point distro). Here in Belgium Gert ‘Gonzo’ Hermans (‘Honey Honey’) helped them out… Jules had been visiting the V.V. before (see: 92-02-09)

‘Marker’ (from Nottingham) were Marcus Jones (guitar), Pete (guitar), Noël (bass), Doug (drums) and Matt (vocals). They had a 7”, We Love Pop Punk, out on Easel recs (‘96). I distributed it back then and reviewed it in Tilt! #9: >>Fast, raging HC cut up with ‘emo’ breaks. Enraged singing. Calling them “another emo band” would be underrating them…<<

96-07 Marker -- Noel-Matt-Doug-Marcus (Lille) by Pete‘Marker’ : Noel – Matt – Doug – Marcus (photographed in Lille, by Pete)

‘Grover’, from Manchester, were Steveland Minta (guitar/vocals, also ‘Kitchener’ [94-03-05]), Ryland Minta (drums) and Stephen ‘Ducky’ (also ‘Whiplash’) Duckworth (bass). Their 7” Trials And Tribulations was due on Clandestine Surprise (recorded a little while before this). They had to cancel this show here…

‘Anomie’, from the Orléans area, played melodic emo-inspired HC with screamed (female) vocals. They were Johnny Vellaine (guitar & vocals), Rémi Chaumet (drums; who was still a teenager then), Kathleen Simonneau (vocals) and Gilles Auvinet (bass & vocals). Kathleen & Gilles (very nice and intelligent people) ran the label Ape recs and a studio (where a lot of bands from that era – e.g. ‘Undone’, ‘Fingerprint’, ‘Unhinged’, ‘Öpstand’, ‘Alcatraz’ etc. – recorded, if I remember well). They played here already on 95-07-23… They did a demo in ’94. The next year they did a split-LP with the German band ‘Peace Of Mind’ (see: 94-11-05) and a 7” together with ‘Peu Être’ (emo band from Niort, France). Their last release was a self-titled LP in ’97; they also had some tracks on the Food Not Bombs benefit-compilation… Yann Boislève released their discography in 2001.

96-07-07 Anomie (by QQQ)‘Anomie’ (pic by ?)

96-07-07 Anomie & Matt Marker‘Anomie’ with Matt ‘Marker’ supporting on vocals (pic kindly donated by Marcus Jones)

‘Totuus’ (meaning ‘truth’), were a band from Oulu/Tampere that played crusty HC/punk. I think they were Miikka Timonen (drums), Vesku (guitar; later replaced by Mika Piipponen), Raffe (bass, R.I.P.; later replaced by Tommy Kangosjärvi) & Tomppa (vocals). They recorded for a split-7” with ‘Hiastus’ in February and in November of that same year they would register the tracks for the split-7” with ‘Aparat’ (from Sweden).


I played in ‘Totuus’ from 2000 on, in the nineties they had the original bassist.

Tommy Olavi Kangosjärvi

I didn’t play in ‘Totuus’ in 90’s. I played bass just for their (one-off) re-union gig in May 2013. Miikka Timonen plays drums for ‘Vivisektio’ nowdays.

Pentti ‘Pena’ Kaulanen

We (singer Tomppa & myself, drummer Miikka) tried to remember something about that gig, but no results. We are still living in Oulu. Our bass-player Raffe is dead. I think our guitar-player Vesku is living in Helsinki… Some history about the band: The first name was ‘Hässäkkä’ [hassle]. We did a 7” Totaalinen Vitun (in 1995) with myself on drums, Tomi doing vocals, Raffe on bass and Vesku playing guitar. In ‘96 we played the first gig under the name ‘Totuus’ (same members). In 1997 Mika Piipponen took over guitar and I think in 2000 Tommy took up the bass.

Miikka Timonen, ‘Totuus’

Great gig! I travelled with ‘Tuomiopäivän Lapset’ to their gig in Neerpelt the next day!

Erik Minnen

I guess ‘Totuus’ (Finland) were also on the line-up? [Brob: Had forgotten about that but yes…]

Jim Faes

I’m good friends with ‘Marker’, the founder member [Marcus Jones] now does a band called ‘ASBO Peepshow’.

Eddie Greenaway, ‘Slum Gang’ (Nottingham)

We never played this gig. We were meant to be doing a tour with ‘Marker’ but something happened and it fell through. We did a small tour of Belgium with a band called ‘Honey Honey’ but never played the V.V.

Steveland Minta, ‘Grover’

I didn’t play on this tour. Jason did. I played with ‘Substandard’ for a while on a German tour. Jules Lowery (the singer) sings in our new band ‘Constant State Of Terror’.

Sonny Tyler, ‘Substandard’ stand-in drummer

I was already familiar with the Vort’n Vis venue as I had been too a Punk/Hardcore festival in 1994. I met Gert [Hermans] there and he kept in touch and he helped set us up with the tour with ‘Anomie’ and his band ‘Honey Honey’ who joined us for about 4 dates out of the 7 we actually ended up playing. We played in Lille, Rouen, Dunkerque, Bordeaux & Paris. The gig in Dunkerque was the only licensed premises we played in France the rest of the gigs were all in squats. The night before the tour we played in Nottingham with ‘Police Bastard’ & ‘Combat Shock’ which I absolutely loved playing with; all bands played blinding sets. The main memory of the tour was having a real laugh, drinking a lot (every venue sorted you out with a crate of beer) and being looked after and fed and accommodated.

The main thing I remember about Vort’n Vis was that I just liked the venue, and it seemed well run and organised. It was also great to see ‘Substandard’ (also from Nottingham) on the bill. I rated them highly then and still do. Matt our singer had to help ‘Anomie’ out with vocals as Kathleen’s voice was gone. She had an incredible voice… I also remember laughing when I found out that a local had said that ‘Marker’ looked more like tourists than a band. We weren’t that bothered about image as some other bands might have been! We managed to sell quite a few copies of our single I Love/Hate Pop Punk. That was a piss-take of me as I have always liked punk with melodic leanings! I hated being called an emo band! Doug and Matt liked that scene so we inevitably had a slight influence because of their input.

The other bands on the bill on the day were all quite standard punk of the time. I remembered being intrigued about the band from Luxemburg. I have looked at the Vort’n Vis flyer and unfortunately ‘Grover’ from Manchester couldn’t make it in the end because of work-commitments.

We played our last gig the day after, at Neerpelt I recall that was a bad gig for us; we didn’t play that well. After returning from tour we played 3 more gigs in England, I think, before we broke up. No falling out I just think it had run its course…

Marcus Jones, ‘Marker’

Nowadays I’m in a band with one of the ‘Substandard’ guitarists [‘Constant State Of Terror’]. Yeah I did M.T.P. distro and still do in a small way; also some stuff with the record label Inflammable Material.

Jules Lowery, ‘Substandard’ vocalist

Yeah I played the Vort’n Vis on that tour but not a lot to say really as I only played half the gig. It was a sunday matinee and the last gig of the tour and I had to get back to England desperately so half way through the set I said goodbye to everyone and rushed off to the train-station to get a boat back. The rest of the band had to stay a few days, I think, waiting for our van and driver which had broken down and was stuck in Leipzig. People were friendly but I was disappointed with my 3 little bottles of pissy beer… If I remember we got three little bottles of shit lager each, might as well have said we were straight-edge!!! …I’m saying this in a humorous way don’t take offence…

Andrew Hennessey, ‘Substandard’ guitarist

If I remember correct the tour was organised by the person called Uli, who lived at Zoro squat, which was located in Leipzig, Germany. It was his suggestion to share the gigs with ‘Substandard’ from the UK. Gigs in Belgium were the last ones on the tour and we were mentally pretty tired of everything at that point. The tour lasted for 3 weeks. When we played at Vort’n Vis I had been drinking all night on the bus and therefore I wasn’t in the best possible condition for that gig. I suppose not much people bothered to show up for the gig that night.

96 Substandard T.L. tour

We came from Finland with ‘Totuus’ and played all the gigs together. On that tour we were: Kojo (of ‘Hylkiö’ and some other crust bands…can’t remember) doing vocals, Mikko on guitar, Kake on bass and me on drums. I think Sanna was in the band at that time but she wasn’t able to join the tour. Before the tour we lived together in the same house (kind of a squat.): myself, Mikko and Sanna. They became a couple and moved to Helsinki just before the tour. She got a summer job in Helsinki and didn’t want to come on that tour. Weke was never in the band except for the vocals in the studio for the Saatanan Murhaajat 7” studio-sessions. He played in ‘Genocide’ but not in ‘Tuomiopäivän Lapset’. Kojo was only a replacement for Sanna on this tour. We only practised with him a few times for the tour. After the tour Sanna was in the band until the final gig in Finland in 1997.

Altse Alatalo, drummer of ‘Tuomiopäivän Lapset’

‘Bakunin’s Children’ was not active that very long, I guess not even a year. After that ‘Diff’ started a more melodic project, ‘Petrograd’. Both singers of ‘Bakunin’s Children’ disappeared, I think one of them went to Berlin…

Thierry Thill, drummer of ‘Bakunin’s Children’

excerpts from the V.V. guestbook:

VV 96-07-07 - (book C) Bakunin's Childrendrawing by Frank Villanueva; “a caricature of Marek, me, Thierry, Ronnie & ‘rasta’ Diff”

VV 96-07-07 - (book C) MarkerVV 96-07-07 - (book C) Marker'

VV 96-07-07 - (book C) Marker+Anomie

VV 96-07-07 - (book C) Substandard

VV 96-07-07 - (book C) TL & Totuus

VV 96-07-07 - (book C) visitersvisiters?

additions wellcome!…